anyone else find kog maw & ardent lulu promblematic?

Rustling Bush·10/16/2017, 1:07:34 AM·7 votes·1,304 views

i know item 3504 as a whole is a extremely powerful item, but when you give it to KogMaw of all people who builds item 3124 item 3072 his sustain with Lulu kit is unreal, it gives him the sort of tankiness you would expect from a fighter. i just had a game we really had to end early because no matter how badly we crushed KogMaw, his damage stayed more then relevant, even with adc being over powered i can't think of any other adc that can keep their damage up after thoroughly being squashed early, kog maw just feels like a ball of stats.

12 Comments

Hayaishi210/16/2017, 2:06:33 AM5 votes

kog maw IS ballstats. Tristana, Twitch, Vayne, Caitlyn, Kog are all ball stats and should never be relevant if we want a healthy bot lane.

Shepherd o Souls10/16/2017, 3:45:04 AM3 votes

Bot lane is a mess, this whole game is a mess right now. Riot keeps pushing everything toward super quick, fast paced constant fighting and making the game decided in a matter of minutes. Most of a game result in 15 minute inhibs. Level 1 ganks are typical now on tanks with tons of cc after getting level 2 off leash, first turret is taken at like 4-7 minutes.

They need to look at a lot right now, because even if THEIR small balance team wants every game to be super fast pace, I don't think 95% of the league community wants a 20 minute game. I don't even want to play my main, Yorick, anymore because unlike before, I can't fight an adc if I'm WAAYY ahead. Shit, I don't even want to climb to gold in soloq anymore because the game isn't fun to play.

Riot isn't going to nerf adcs ANYTIME soon because runes reforged is the only thing on their mind right now, but hey at least pbe has slightly less ardent rushes and more people actually trying to have fun. Even with off meta picks and troll builds it doesn't make the games longer than 25 minutes.

GrievousFetus10/16/2017, 5:35:08 AM1 votes

Honestly? The entire enchanter class and this continued Ardent fiasco has just been so fucking embarrassing. I don't think anything has exposed Riot's balance team as so out of touch and hilariously but worryingly incompetent before or at least for such a long time.

The thing continues to get love taps to it yet remains a dominant force, when it should have rightfully been hotfixed (with a removal).

Athenes Lulu10/16/2017, 7:07:36 AM1 votes

It's not any better when you're the Lulu playing with a Kog'Maw.

I don't know how it's fun throwing literally everything onto one champion, sit back, do absolutely nothing else, and win. If you try to do anything else like chasing after enemies to polymorph, you WILL have a very bad time because you're already asking to lose by this point.

It is pretty much THE definition of "stat checking". Might as well script yourself or make a macro to autobind everything onto Kog'Maw by this point.

FlameHalbrdOkido10/16/2017, 1:50:04 PM1 votes

The problem is Those items designs that they allow ADCS to use as abuse. No ADV shield hacer figher lvl hp regen/ life steal that belongs to a whole other class that doesn't get to stand on the fringes of fights and right click people to death and actually need the survivability to get inn and out of close range to skillfully deal dmg. Hp regen and life steal shoul be niche stats on marksmen who have range on their side and should be punishable squishes to some extent if they get caught. They already have reliable high eng, giving them that survivability is too many tools and not enough weaknesses. That survivability should be mainly for a whole other class and themes on singular champions. We already have 2 tough marksmen that were designed to be that way. That's ok, but when every marksmen has access to the same thing through items, we have a problem.

LordGeovanni10/16/2017, 5:28:45 AM1 votes

Its any adc with an attack speed steriod in kit really when they are blaming it on ardent censer and caitlyn and jhin who 1 has that bull shit head shot and they buffed it and 2 scales damage and mobility off of the attack speed.

Teémò10/16/2017, 1:54:52 AM1 votes