Things that i hate as a jungler

The Deckowner··1 votes·311 views

1.getting counter jungled by my own team(especially when i play devourer jg) 2.no follow up when taking objectives(drag herlds baron) 3.mid lander wont come to last hit blue until i am almost dead for tanking like 50 aa. 4.no follow up on ganks 5.people spam ping u for ganks(hell muting wont even help) 6.No one buy wards 7.ADC crying for babysitting 8.Mid laner crying for ganks 9.Top crying for getting camped 10.the entire red/blue side jg is gone after a single gank 11.to be continued...

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Powderkegg1 votes

K.

La Barbotte1 votes

you forgot Rammus

La Barbotte1 votes

Rammus OK

L Psy Kongroo1 votes

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1.getting counter jungled by my own team(especially when i play devourer jg) 2.no follow up when taking objectives(drag herlds baron) 3.mid lander wont come to last hit blue until i am almost dead for tanking like 50 aa. 4.no follow up on ganks 5.people spam ping u for ganks(hell muting wont even help) 6.No one buy wards 7.ADC crying for babysitting 8.Mid laner crying for ganks 9.Top crying for getting camped 10.the entire red/blue side jg is gone after a single gank 11.to be continued...

  1. I've pretty much never had this problem. Pre-20 min, the laners are too busy in their own lane to take camps, and after 20 min I don't really care, since by that point I can take lane cs without them bitching at me. If this is happening too often, just take their cs and tell them "don't take my jungle, and I won't take your cs". There's also the option of counter-jungling the enemy jungler, but that's dependent on who you're playing and how far ahead you are, how much vision you have, etc.

  2. Again, depending on the jungler you're playing, you can pretty easily solo drag after level 6, especially if you're a devourer jungler. Just be sure to sweep for wards and have ample vision of your own. When it comes to herald, I don't find the buff to be THAT important, but if your top/mid laner doesn't want to help you with it, remind them of their decision when the enemy laner shows up with herald buff. Baron calls are tougher to analyze, and in most situations it's more valuable to take towers over baron if you've just won a teamfight. Usually it's best to just follow what the rest of the team is doing. Forcing baron when it's not absolutely necessary is a surefire way to throw games.

  3. In these situations I'd just take the blue myself and say "better luck next time". However it's important to look at where the minions are in mid before starting blue. If mid lane wants blue, I usually let them clean up whatever farm is left in the lane and/or push the lane hard before starting blue. Take a side camp while they do this so as not to waste time. Keep in mind that walking over to blue buff and taking it down with the jungler from full HP will likely make them lose out on at least SOME farm. If the gold loss from minions is enough, the mid laner will be less likely to help with blue.

  4. Ping at least once before ganking. Usually I ping twice: once to tell the laners I'm on the way, and again when I've arrived and want to engage. Use the target ping the second time if you're ganking bot lane to let them know who to focus. If they still don't follow up, perhaps their key abilities are on cooldown. For example, ganking for a pre-6 Morgana is kinda pointless if her Q isn't up. She will have no way to contribute to the gank, and you'll be forced to do 90% of the work. Good laners will inform you in the chat of when their abilities are ready, but just remember that most laners will not. As you're walking towards the lane, make sure to keep your camera centered there. Watch your laners and note their ability usage. If you see them use a key ability before you arrive, wait a bit until it's off cooldown.

  5. There's really no way around this. If a laner is sufficiently behind that a gank is not worth your time, then you must simply ignore the pings and focus on other lanes. If you've already muted them in chat, you won't have to deal with their verbal abuse, but just be sure not to gank for them at all. If the laner is NOT behind and a gank would actually be worthwhile then give them a token gank to help them along WHEN YOU ARE ABLE. Don't come running straight to their lane when they start spamming. If the gank goes sour because you were low on HP, or your abilities weren't available, then the laner will likely blame you and the situation will be worse.

  6. The simplest solution to this is to purchase item 3711 and item 3363 . It won't solve all your ward problems, but it sure will help. As a jungler, I never assume my laner will ward; I play as though their wards do not exist. In some ways it's actually helped my map awareness a lot, and has greatly improved my ability to predict the enemy jungler's movements. If I can't see them, I'm forced to calculate their clear path and gank routes through tactical analysis of situational variables. It improves your ability as a jungler by leaps and bounds if you're able to do these things with precision.

  7. Ah, but that's the support's job! (jk pls no flame support mains). No, but seriously, bot lane is both a very VERY important lane to gank, and also a very difficult lane to gank. It's much easier to win a 2v1 than it is to win a 3v2. Not only that, but there are really only 2 ways to gank bot lane (unless you're able to get mid lane's help, or know for a fact that the lane bushes aren't warded). With ADCs being so powerful in this meta, I usually try to focus most of my ganks on bot lane. But if it's clear that bot lane isn't going to do well even with ganks (see #5) then just mute them and gank other lanes. Sometimes a jungler has to know when to let a lane lose. Even if it's bot lane, a fed mid laner can still delete the enemy ADC in the blink of an eye. Sacrifices have to be made in this game, and the jungler has the most to gain AND the most to lose.

  8. See above, it's basically the same principle.

  9. See #7. Also, tell them to ward. If they don't ward, ward top yourself with item 3711 . If they have no map awareness, then ignore them and get the other lanes fed. Lastly, if the enemy jungler is constantly focused on top lane, feel free to counter-jungle to your heart's content. Take dragon with your bot lane while their wasting time top lane, then take the enemy's blue buff and/or gank bot lane. If the enemy jungle is pressuring a single lane exclusively, take advantage of that and put pressure elsewhere.

  10. Not sure what you mean here exactly. Do you mean the enemy is counter-jungling you? Or is this another case of your laners taking your camps?

  11. Feel free to ask more, I'm a jungle Shaco main, I'd be glad to help! :D

The Deckowner1 votes

1.when a lane, especially side lanes, lost their first turret super early, will literally fully clear my side of jg. idk why they think MY jg is their property and they are allowed to take whatever they want.(totally ok with mid taking small raptors tho idrc). 2.tbh i dont think soloing drag at lv6 is worth awhile, if anybody wards over the wall/walk by the river i am fucked. unless i am like fiddlestick or nunu or maybe master yi i wont consider solo drag, it just watse so mich time that i can use for ganks/clearling. rift herld is pretty good if a lane is ahead, but people underestimate the power of the buff and how easy it is to do it wi th multiple people. baron is situational yah.

3.i ping blue and start doing gromp, if they arent there when i finish gromp and almost finish blue i take them. the only ones that pisses me off is when they pinged for assist at blue and does not come at all. 4.i really wish people to learn the concept of pinging the jungler to back off when they arent ablevto follow up, i do it myself to save their time and my time. 5.people should be able to be reported for spam pinging. my minimap is pretty much invisible because of this pe rson infinitely pinging me. 6.honestly its not enough, my wards are constantly the only ones that exist on the map(many support dont buy ss in my elo because they think they are a mid laner in bot lane) and the team keep getting caught cause they facecheck fogofwar. 90% of the people doesnt know what blue trinkets do and they dont put down wards with yellow trinkets, while jg mostly need to buy red trinket, sigh. 7.honestly ganking bot lane is so freaking risky, in solo lanes if ur teammates suck u 1v1 the enemy, in bot lane if ur teammates suck u 1v2. i usually dont gank bot unless i noticed they are decent by observation. 8. i gank when i can, but these babyragers are really unacceptable. 9.the issue is people not knowing how to play passively, i have seen people pushing to enemy towers when clearly was getting camped. 10.mid/sidelane not protecting my jg which i usually leave a pink ward in from enemy jg.

tbh these are just some annoying stuff everyone jas to face when being a jg.

cuddlykitten41 votes

#Twelve: Yourself for being a jungler.

cuddlykitten41 votes

On the flip side though, I hate when a jungler comes up for a gank and even though you asked him not to he does it anyways. There's so much more to it than killing the laners. I don't harass much early in a solo lane because I want to increase the cs gap between us, and as long as he isn't sent back to buy then we are both running on even damage. As it appears, the enemy is equal to me in their junglers eyes. Once we go back to buy, and the difference in our gold is obvious, that's when the nonstop ganks appear from the enemy. Sometimes it's much wiser to let the enemy spin their wheels until it's too late.

The Deckowner1 votes

13 . YOURSELF FOR PLAYING THIS GAME

cuddlykitten41 votes
  1. Way to piggyback off of my joke with a more bland version of the same joke :P

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