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Its amazing now influential having a early jungler is on a match.

5050BS··5 votes·1,188 views

Jungle is such a broken part of the game. Its too hard to balance with the current damage in the game.

Ether the jungler makes zero impact on the game, or the jungler is 100% impact on the game. Its because of all the damage. A early jungler successful gank = that lane is already snowballing and so is the jungler because they dont will do so much more damage then the enemy now.

If Riot slows the jungle down then junglers mean nothing because they are afk to the team.

Riot needs to lower damage over all for Jungle to be healthy to the game and balanceable.

Just had a game where enemy jungler (Kha ganked pre 6) one successful the other not but no deaths. Vs my jungler Kayn who waited until after 6 to gank any lanes.

I would say both where around the same skill but we lost with Kha being 15/6 and Kayn being 11/9 but the early gank snowballed both lanes Kha ganked stupidly hard.

9 Comments

Eedat4 votes

Jesus christ Jungle was already hard nerfed. Its not broken. There is always going to be junglers, get over it. Learn to play the game because there is always going to be junglers. The "1v1 lane" fantasy is bullshit that does not, will not, and never has existed in LoL history. BUT tHiS oNe GaMe TeH jUnGlEr GoT fEd So We ShOuLd NeRf ThE eNtIrE rOlE aGaIn GuIsE

Rexxiee1 votes

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Jesus christ Jungle was already hard nerfed. Its not broken. There is always going to be junglers, get over it. Learn to play the game because there is always going to be junglers. The "1v1 lane" fantasy is bullshit that does not, will not, and never has existed in LoL history. BUT tHiS oNe GaMe TeH jUnGlEr GoT fEd So We ShOuLd NeRf ThE eNtIrE rOlE aGaIn GuIsE

Guess you havent played in the early seasons.

Back then jungle monsters actually did damage so it took not only longer to clear, but it meant that ganking early without backing first was risky.

Exactly how it should be for a role that has access to ganks on every lane starting at not even 3 minutes in.

Hayaishi4 votes

It's pretty much impossible to win a game when your jungler gets outjungled.

This BS has been around since s5 its time 4 junglers to lose some agency.

WøOxer3 votes

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It's pretty much impossible to win a game when your jungler gets outjungled.

This BS has been around since s5 its time 4 junglers to lose some agency.

Revert scuttle, XP changes, and diversity will be there again with different champ pools, instead of seeing every single game Xin, Wukong and other point to click bullshit.

Rexxiee1 votes

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Revert scuttle, XP changes, and diversity will be there again with different champ pools, instead of seeing every single game Xin, Wukong and other point to click bullshit.

Then we are back to lvl 3 junglers ganking lvl 1~2 solo lanes, which is extremely unhealthy.

RekSai CoffeeCo2 votes

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Revert scuttle, XP changes, and diversity will be there again with different champ pools, instead of seeing every single game Xin, Wukong and other point to click bullshit.

Wish I could give more upvotes. If only more people could see the solution to jungle, jungle diversity and why funneling is occurring due to weak jungle experience i.e. being 2-4 levels under solo laners. If you want examples of those who don't get it just look below.

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Yes, the jg role is still way too influential for a single person in a team game.

They really need their early game slowed down, maybe they should need 2 camps to hit lvl 2 so no more cheese lvl 2 ganks on lvl 1 lanes.

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Then we are back to lvl 3 junglers ganking lvl 1~2 solo lanes, which is extremely unhealthy.

Jungle being 2-4 levels under solo laners for even longer (is extremely unhealthy as well) than the small window you are referring to before the changes occurred (um ever heard of wards? learn to expect the gank and play safe during that small window of time compared to 4-6 minutes of mid game that junglers are under solo laners in experience).

The Nocturne God4 votes

A carry jungler carried, better nerf all junglers. If trends like this continue , this game will not last long.

5050BS1 votes

Dudes Im not saying nerf Jungle. The issue is that Riot CANT balance jungle in this damage meta.

The fine line of a balanced jungle is too small because of the damage meta.

If they nerf jungle then jungle is meaningless to the game. If they leave it then its too impactful. Its because damage is so much. They need to nerf damage to make jungle balanceable.

Rexxiee1 votes

Yes, the jg role is still way too influential for a single person in a team game.

They really need their early game slowed down, maybe they should need 2 camps to hit lvl 2 so no more cheese lvl 2 ganks on lvl 1 lanes.

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