Riot: In Ranked games "Remake" should not be a Vote.

5050BS·Sep 30, 2019·94 votes·19,014 views

IF a player has not connected in 3m of the game then its a automatic remake. The loss of exp at the start puts the team with the afker too much at a disadvantage.

57 Comments

BoxOfFedUpFrogs Sep 30, 201933 votes

I agree. Honestly i'd be down with the timer being a bit shorter than 3 mins. At 3 mins you're at such a huge disadvantage that even if you got back in at that second it's going to be a huge crawl back in if possible at all. And with the amount of crash bugs currently in the game this happens quite often honestly. 2:30 seconds seems like a bit of a better timer to make it back or not to me but maybe i'm just complaining.

General Esdeath Sep 30, 201910 votes

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I agree. Honestly i'd be down with the timer being a bit shorter than 3 mins. At 3 mins you're at such a huge disadvantage that even if you got back in at that second it's going to be a huge crawl back in if possible at all. And with the amount of crash bugs currently in the game this happens quite often honestly. 2:30 seconds seems like a bit of a better timer to make it back or not to me but maybe i'm just complaining.

Should be 2 minutes tbh

Hi im 12Sep 30, 20198 votes

up to high plat you have a good chance at winning games 4v5 if you play like a human beings, also with how fucked up tito gayms client is you occasionally don't feel like waiting for 60 minutes before getting an actual game.

BoxOfFedUpFrogs Sep 30, 201919 votes

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up to high plat you have a good chance at winning games 4v5 if you play like a human beings, also with how fucked up tito gayms client is you occasionally don't feel like waiting for 60 minutes before getting an actual game.

No. You don't have a good chance at winning. You have a good chance of the enemy team throwing which isn't the same thing at all. Also not every server is the same. Also no one is waiting 60 minutes for a game, dont be dramatic.

Hi im 12Sep 30, 20194 votes

You don't have a good chance at winning

4 challenger players will beat 5 plat players in a 4v5 90% of the time

not every server is the same

I mean I haven't played on oce and kr but all the other servers seemed about the same to me

Also no one is waiting 60 minutes for a game

its actually quite common to see a 20 minute queue at 4 am and with a few dodged and a remake it easily goes to 1 hour waiting time

BoxOfFedUpFrogs Sep 30, 201910 votes

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4 challenger players will beat 5 plat players in a 4v5 90% of the time

I mean I haven't played on oce and kr but all the other servers seemed about the same to me

its actually quite common to see a 20 minute queue at 4 am and with a few dodged and a remake it easily goes to 1 hour waiting time

Are you being deliberately obtuse? How often are 4 challenger people playing against 4 plat players not in a custom or an aram? Don't use the fringe of the fringe to try and justify yourself. And at what elo are you talking about? Dia +? duo queued? Lol. Once again the fringe of the fringe if anything.

4 am games + what 9 dodges to get to 60 minutes? I mean..........

Hi im 12Sep 30, 20193 votes

How often are 4 challenger people playing against 4 plat players

well I did say that if you're playing like a human being you have a decent chance at winning :)

4 am games + what 9 dodges to get to 60 minutes? I mean..........

sit in queue for 23 min, 5 min champ select, 3 min to remake, another 23 min queue and 5 min champ select and its already been an hour, you don't even need dodges.

BoxOfFedUpFrogs Sep 30, 20195 votes

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well I did say that if you're playing like a human being you have a decent chance at winning :)

sit in queue for 23 min, 5 min champ select, 3 min to remake, another 23 min queue and 5 min champ select and its already been an hour, you don't even need dodges.

Buddy when you get the restart you don't restart the whole queue. It never takes the entire long queue again, what are you playing with a total of 9 other players?

Actually having read your name i'm done with you. You're obviously being deliberately delusional. Or you're just really good at it.

Hi im 12Sep 30, 20192 votes

when someone dodged you don't restart the queue but a remake does, nice ad hominems n shit tho buddy, I know its rough to admit that you're wrong but when you run out of arguments and start twisting facts you should try it.

TailsDoll Oct 1, 20193 votes

Holy shit, I applaud your ability to fake stupidity, truly remarkable.

OneMustFallOct 1, 20191 votes

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No. You don't have a good chance at winning. You have a good chance of the enemy team throwing which isn't the same thing at all. Also not every server is the same. Also no one is waiting 60 minutes for a game, dont be dramatic.

That's a fallacy. Winning is winning. Whether you choose to believe the enemy team is "throwing" because they have a perceived advantage or is just getting outskilled is irrelevant.

BoxOfFedUpFrogs Oct 2, 20191 votes

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OneMustFallOct 3, 20191 votes

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chicken doodleOct 1, 20194 votes

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IfnethOct 1, 20191 votes

In all fairness, P1 60% is not hardstuck unless the elo gains are terrible. He should crawl into D4 pretty soon.

Hi im 12Oct 1, 20191 votes

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chicken doodleOct 2, 20191 votes

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leave it to a 700 games 50% wr plat 4 to call people hardstuck and flame an offrole account that decayed into plat lmao

You're funny! Obviously this isn't my real rank. Besides, we're talking about you :)

Hi im 12Oct 2, 20191 votes

Obviously this isn't my real rank

truuueee, I can now see that you just abused ritos fucked up LP gains at beginning of the season and you're actually a gold player :)

chicken doodleOct 2, 20191 votes

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truuueee, I can now see that you just abused ritos fucked up LP gains at beginning of the season and you're actually a gold player :)

that is some profound 15th century thinking right there

Hi im 12Oct 2, 20191 votes

well feel free to show me your real rank, but everybody knows you'll just say some stupid shit like "oh I don't have to prove anything to you!" since this is your hardstuck account and your peak.

chicken doodleOct 4, 20191 votes

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well feel free to show me your real rank, but everybody knows you'll just say some stupid shit like "oh I don't have to prove anything to you!" since this is your hardstuck account and your peak.

oh I don't have to prove anything to you!

ChalzeOct 1, 20196 votes

4v5s have a recorded 27% (or so) winrate. I dunno about you but I wouldnt' call that a 'good chance'.

Hi im 12Oct 1, 20191 votes

well it goes up by quite a bit if you play like a human being :)

TailsDoll Oct 1, 20193 votes

Give statistics or GTFO

ŚhunpoOct 1, 20192 votes

Man's is literally 12 [sg-miss-fortune]

Hi im 12Oct 1, 20191 votes

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ŚhunpoOct 2, 20191 votes

It's a figure of speech....if you really want to know the origin of it, it comes from the average (hood-based) African-American's way of saying "you're mental" in a hood related manner. Hence, "Man's is literally 12". Also because your name is "Hi im 12".

I'm surprised you haven't heard this or a variation of this at least once on the internet.

Hi im 12Oct 2, 20191 votes

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ŚhunpoOct 2, 20191 votes

Epic.

ChrisBrownzeSep 30, 20197 votes

People that reconnect at 258 and lose the game for the entire team deserve a special place in hell.

Blazing ValianceOct 1, 20191 votes

That is a rather cruel fate to sentence one to, for whom is sent to hell shall be sent to the deepest, darkest depths of hell to face eternal suffering.

ChrisBrownzeOct 3, 20191 votes

I had to suffer for like another 20 min so I think it's pretty fair :D

Also people appear to be undecided. Considering votes on my comment currently sit at 6:6(:6) ? 666? HMMMMMM, it's a sign

MetalGear JotaroSep 30, 20197 votes

i know, that certain other MOBA with D and 2 in its name is not welcome here,but how about getting a "pause" function? and if you are afraid of people abusing it,make it totally automatic, so when someone DC's, the game automatically pauses itself,lets say for 3 minutes max if person does not reconnect in time, then you can remake

BoxOfFedUpFrogs Sep 30, 20196 votes

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i know, that certain other MOBA with D and 2 in its name is not welcome here,but how about getting a "pause" function? and if you are afraid of people abusing it,make it totally automatic, so when someone DC's, the game automatically pauses itself,lets say for 3 minutes max if person does not reconnect in time, then you can remake

Also good with that but most people will probably whine about waiting idle.

Anu3isIIOct 1, 20193 votes

Especially the Eastern playerbase...

nGioOct 1, 20191 votes

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i know, that certain other MOBA with D and 2 in its name is not welcome here,but how about getting a "pause" function? and if you are afraid of people abusing it,make it totally automatic, so when someone DC's, the game automatically pauses itself,lets say for 3 minutes max if person does not reconnect in time, then you can remake

No thanks. Then we get the shit where the trolls unload their pauses when you start shit stomping their base.

They need to fix the garbage client and then up the minimum system and connection requirements.

The Leper COnOct 1, 20195 votes

I agree. There is 0 reason to draw out a 30-40 minute game that was lost in the first 5 minutes by someone reconnecting 15 seconds before you can vote for a remake, then they go on to feed and afk anyway. Now its a 4-5 regardless.

ACriticalThinkerOct 1, 20194 votes

Actually lost a game because team went out of their way to play the game even though we coulda remade

Pika FoxOct 1, 20193 votes

Game starts, person didnt connect, got a 4v5 ace, starting off strong, your comp is even better late, person who DCd isnt vital to your team.

Auto remake, gg, enemy misplays dont matter.

datfatguyOct 1, 20194 votes

Winning a 4v5 in the late game is still very hard even if you outscale the enemy team

Pika FoxOct 1, 20191 votes

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Winning a 4v5 in the late game is still very hard even if you outscale the enemy team

Ehhh. Unless youre in high plat or greater, not really.

TailsDoll Oct 1, 20194 votes

Yes because lvl 1 ace are soooo common

Pika FoxOct 1, 20191 votes

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Yes because lvl 1 ace are soooo common

Theyre honestly pretty common all things considered, even in high elo. Embrace the fiesta, and the fiesta will show no mercy

OneMustFallOct 1, 20191 votes

Basically for a remake vote not to pass it means everyone except one person has to want to continue to play. If three out of four people don't want to waste another 30 minutes getting into a game and would like to play it out, they should have the opportunity to do that. The d/ced player frequently returns after 3 minutes and that ground can be easily made up as the game progresses.

BoxOfFedUpFrogs Oct 2, 20191 votes

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Basically for a remake vote not to pass it means everyone except one person has to want to continue to play. If three out of four people don't want to waste another 30 minutes getting into a game and would like to play it out, they should have the opportunity to do that. The d/ced player frequently returns after 3 minutes and that ground can be easily made up as the game progresses.

Actually not true, though that happens most of the time. Sometimes it does bug and register people as logged in at start and will not allow a remake. This has happened to me twice recently.

aezensOct 1, 20191 votes

The question should be why does a game even starts when one or more player arn´t connected?

If someone has finished there loading he should be put into the game instatantly (which would solve another issue with the lack of clearity loading bar btw but thats another topic) The game and 15 seconds cage timer starts after everyone has connected and if anyone fails to connect after lets say 2-3 minutes the game will be disband.

RyzeReworkOct 1, 20191 votes

i think it should be after 2nd minon wave spawn cause if u miss 2 minon waves your lanes pretty doomed tbh

flowêrOct 1, 20191 votes

I would love that ._.

BackdoorPrincessOct 1, 20191 votes

If minions have spawned and they aren't connected it should auto-remake, even missing one wave this year puts you so far behind in xp alone, let alone gold, it's not even funny. If I see someone hit lane late and is still underleveled, you bet your ass they're getting ganked to shit to make sure they can't even come back