ARAM and Warmogs

Mike Teavee·10/28/2018, 9:30:00 PM·3 votes·1,156 views

Hey, I wanted to state that I felt the Warmog's removal was a good choice a while back. I do understand it was for the event, and a lot of tank players felt it really helped against poke comps. However, the frustration of playing against a tank team (especially Garen) with Warmog's is just as bad. Will there be any form of addressing this issue in the future, such as making it less effective than on SR, or implementing a different item similar to it that's ARAM-specific?

Not to go into an anti-Garen rant, but I feel that he's very oppressive overall, and when I go to play Aram it's to chill out and have fun. Garen is already very anti-fun to play against, but on a mode without basing and where it's all RNG, it's extremely frustrating to kite a Garen while he charges at you, then ults you for massive damage, walking off to regen all of the health in a matter of seconds. I would love to see some commentary on this item, Garen's state of play, etc. It's pretty difficult to play against, especially when your champs are not the strongest.

Edit: I'm unsure why any post stating the strength of a champion or alterations is always down-voted so aggressively. This is possibly why changes aren't implemented with players in mind, because the posts making constructive suggestions get pummeled into the ground before they can be seen by a larger audience.

13 Comments

Beatrice falls10/28/2018, 9:32:57 PM3 votes

Honestly they should make a Warmog version that works the same as TahmKench grey health, so if you engage, you're punished for it if you fuck things up

The "poor tanks getting kited to death" are allowed to engage 1v5, chunk 80% of your hp, leave with 5% hp and can regen it all in a matter of seconds while you're left with 20% hp and can't do anything to stop this regen. Fucking infuriating to see a Alistar fucking up his engage, pressing R, walking away and coming back 3 seconds later and doing the same engage at full HP again

Mike Teavee10/28/2018, 9:30:33 PM2 votes

Also, I wanted to state that I am looking to further discussion about these balance issues, not start argument's about Garen's strength or anything.

KVbqbFsC8e10/28/2018, 9:39:20 PM2 votes

And playing against Ziggs/Sona is fun?

Inkling Commando10/28/2018, 10:27:10 PM1 votes

Garen doesn't need item 3083 . his passive lets him regen a bunch of health on his own. honestly item 3065 is better since it increases his passive regen by 30% rather than outclassing it. and gives him some protection from any tanks greatest weakness. mages. you could have a buttload of health and armor but if a Veigar or a Ziggs comes up they can combo you and you're down like that snaps fingers

Edge of Daybreak10/28/2018, 10:47:12 PM1 votes

Things that need to happen for warmogs to even be considered for removal. Entire roster unlocked. As fun as it is only playing with 5-6 aram accounts in any combination on the teams it got old fast and I'd like to actually have this mode function as random plus you will see less of the constant oppressive comps that force warmogs to be necessary.

Make an item specifically for aram to address how strong poke is. If we open up the roster so that having insane poke comps is less frequent we won't need to see multiple warmogs a game when say someone like xerath is the only thing chunking you from offscreen.

Beerstein10/28/2018, 11:10:52 PM1 votes

Warmogs is so late game in ARAM due to the 3k HP requirement that by the time they get it it's over, or they deserve their win if they pull it off without getting nuked.