Reasons why League is detrimental to your health

Mike Teavee··72 votes·7,729 views

Have you ever come home from a long day at work or a boring day at school and been itching to try out that new build you've been thinking of? Have you ever had a rough day and thought you would hop on League to pass some time and ease some stress?

I know I have. I know that League has become somewhat of an addiction to me over the years. I started near the end of season 2, having played it for a little bit on its release. I didn't like it so I stopped playing it until season 2 was ending. I quickly leveled my account with friends and began my journey to improve as a player.

Along the way, I had read countless guides, watched numerous videos, and done A TON of research to become the best player I could be. I was constantly analyzing pro players and their builds, why they built that way, and how their decisions affected the outcome of the game. I found myself climbing the ranked ladders. From Bronze to Silver to Gold and into my Platinum promotional series.

I am a player that seems to carry either heavy winning streaks or heavy losing streaks. I guess you could say I go slightly on tilt, but there are games where I will get teams of toxic players that do nothing but trash talk each other, as if we didn't all have the same goal - to win.

From Platinum promos - losing them twice - I dropped down the ranked ladder on a nasty losing streak that would ultimately result in my Gold III rank, from Gold I. From Gold III, I started to lose interest in League and the rankings, as the season had already ended. So before season 5, and after season 4, I dropped my rank from Gold III to Silver II. I just didn't care. I'd get flamed multiple games in a row and it would set me on a stress-filled warpath to losing.

Not only did my play in-game struggle, but I found myself getting aggravated in real life as well as letting frustration and stress get to me. Even in games where I would give it my all and carry my team, regardless of the amount of toxicity, we would lose. As a team game, the phrase, "You just aren't good enough to carry," isn't true. It shouldn't be solely your responsibility to bring a deadweight game back to life. There are 5 players on the team. That means that there is a 20% chance that each player with either to well or do poorly. If you are the only player doing well, you are running on 20% out of 100%. If you are getting dumped on and your team is carrying you, that could be 80% efficiency. If everything is going wrong and no one is willing to work together, you are at 0%.

So not only are the odds not in your favor, but coining the sentence that you aren't good enough to carry is just unbelievably ignorant. In a game where toxicity has become a mainstream and trolling goes unpunished, the whole aspect of it being a "team" game just becomes irrelevant.

When I first started League, the toxicity was bad. As League progressed and more and more players were introduced to LoL, the toxicity became unbearable.

I find more times than not that I leave the game - win or loss - feeling dehumanized and wondering why I even force myself to endure such a torment for such a small and meaningless game. My friends and family don't understand why I still play because I will share stories of what people have said or done to me in the game that make even Call of Duty look friendly.

Physically, sitting for as long as the games can last is bad for your posture as well as your blood flow. Your health can deteriorate without you even realizing it. The games last anywhere from 25-65 minutes, which is a long time to be sitting down focused on a computer screen. Couple that with the anxiety that fucking up will result in a slew of new titles that you never even knew you were - like fuckboy, %%%%%%, dickhead, and things of the like.

Where do all the bad people go? Well, for about two years Riot had disabled the Tribunal. Though they claimed to be dishing out bans and mutes to players, it was very rare that I ever met a player with chat restrictions. Not only that, but there have been times where I have had an intentional AFK on my team and I will see them still playing League a day or two later, because by chance I get the same person in my game again.

Currently, in Season 5, I placed low due to my MMR tank in the off season. I climbed the ladder back with no problem. I have made it to Gold III and failed my Gold II promos 4 times now. And I am talking 0-2 failures. Even if I am on a winning streak, I seem to lose both games every time I make it to those promos. And then I get demoted to Gold IV. Then to Gold V. And I am back to square one.

And by this point, I am wondering why I even waste my time. I know I am a better player than my rank. I have proven it time and time again. But in a game where the slightest mistake can set you under fire, the pressure is always on your shoulders.

The worst part is that when someone flames, the rest of the team often joins in to use the victim as a scapegoat for anything that goes wrong. So not only is the victim being repeatedly bashed by the main aggressor, but also being attack by the bandwagon teammates who can't accept the fact that they might possibly be the problem.

Couple that with lack of coordination, downright refusal to work as a team, and repetitive mistakes and throws, and you've got yourself 8/10 games of solo queue. There is no way that this amount of pressure and stress on the mind, straining your thoughts and eyes to take everything in, for a solid hour, produces anything good.

I find that more often than not, I will leave a game feeling worse off than when I entered the game. No matter if I played extremely well or if I played bad. Instead of promoting positivity and good dynamics for a team to follow, allies tend to focus more on the mistakes you make. I could be 9-0 and the one time I die, I get shit talked so hard I lose all morale and don't even want my team to win anymore.

Though Riot has been saying they are working on perfecting the justice system, when will we see improvements to overall game dynamic? When you play a handful of games extremely well and still lose due to your teammates arguing with each other or someone trolling, is it really fair? I know life isn't fair but I find it completely odd that with a company so dedicated to eSports and developing a proper and positive face for Riot Games would let their game become infamous as the most toxic community to exist.

Stop gimping on the parts that actually matter and effect the people that play the game. Start implementing rules for quicker trials and executions. Implement a system that works. All of this talk and all of these statistics that @RiotLyte likes to throw out are never backed up by experiential data. I think out of the past 5 games, all 5 have had 1-3 teammates either arguing with each other or just being an overall jerk to the entire team because their play was sub-par.

After tonight, losing my ranking (I was in promos for gold III tonight and lost them due to two AFK's) and ending up back in Gold V because of nonstop toxicity, I am considering just removing LoL and discarding it as a sad and pointless portion of my life.

A game I used to enjoy causes nothing but stress and anger anymore. It's sad that I used to be so adamant about becoming the best and ranking up and the only thing stopping me from continuing that attitude is the freedom the community has to get away with murder. _ In conclusion_, I'd just like to say that I have spent a lot of time on League. Sadly, I cannot get that time back. I have worked so hard and repeatedly lost it all only to continue the cycle. It has become a monotonous waste of time where the only thing people seem to be good at in the game is making sure you know they want you to kill yourself IRL.

I used to respect Riot - they used to be about the people and listen to community suggestions. Like all companies that started from nothing, Riot Games rose to stardom and have since forgotten the humble beginnings that brought them thus far in the first place. Monetary value before health of the community is the main concern. New skins, champions, and icon packs are higher priority than promoting healthy gameplay outside of competitive play.

The health of this game and the health of the players will only continue to suffer. This game will age and become irrelevant and all we can do is look back on it and talk about how good it is that this scourge of a community has finally dissipated.

78 Comments

Rossonious29 votes

Just playing devils advocate here but I've never played a MOBA before league and just started playing ranked between season 4-5. I was put in Bronze 5 when I dove from normals to ranked right at lvl 30 and couldn't seem to improve enough to carry my horrible teammates.

Rather than give up or become disheartened I took steps to improve myself. During the past few months I've:

  1. organized my sales coworkers across the nation into tiers based on stats with the goal of eventually making the top 200 someday (I'm climbing to "platinum" as I type!)
  2. stopped abusing alcohol
  3. started sleeping 8 hrs a day (went so far as to score a used temperpedic!)
  4. spend more time with my wife, we eat dinner together every night now
  5. joined gym and hired personal trainer to check on my fitness 4 days a month

I have more I need to work on and am always gradually improving but the fun thing about making these life changes are they're secretly motivated by a desire to get a high score in a competitive multiplayer game hahahaha.

So far since I've started playing this year I'm on pace to earn $25,000 more than last year (I'm commission only), become much more healthy feeling/looking, and amazed my family by basically going from a semi depressed corp zombie to a motivated happy person who feels like he's improving.

Oh, yeah, and bronze finally feels super easy. Lost my first promos to silver (ever!!) just yesterday but had bronze 2s and silver 5s on my team vs silver 3s :). The system loves stacking the deck on you in promos lmao but I'll be back in them shortly.

Anyway, all I'm saying is mute the trolls, take good care of yourself, and try to only play for fun. You're getting way too stressed by things you can't 100% control.

Mike Teavee5 votes

{quoted}

Just playing devils advocate here but I've never played a MOBA before league and just started playing ranked between season 4-5. I was put in Bronze 5 when I dove from normals to ranked right at lvl 30 and couldn't seem to improve enough to carry my horrible teammates.

Rather than give up or become disheartened I took steps to improve myself. During the past few months I've:

  1. organized my sales coworkers across the nation into tiers based on stats with the goal of eventually making the top 200 someday (I'm climbing to "platinum" as I type!)
  2. stopped abusing alcohol
  3. started sleeping 8 hrs a day (went so far as to score a used temperpedic!)
  4. spend more time with my wife, we eat dinner together every night now
  5. joined gym and hired personal trainer to check on my fitness 4 days a month

I have more I need to work on and am always gradually improving but the fun thing about making these life changes are they're secretly motivated by a desire to get a high score in a competitive multiplayer game hahahaha.

So far since I've started playing this year I'm on pace to earn $25,000 more than last year (I'm commission only), become much more healthy feeling/looking, and amazed my family by basically going from a semi depressed corp zombie to a motivated happy person who feels like he's improving.

Oh, yeah, and bronze finally feels super easy. Lost my first promos to silver (ever!!) just yesterday but had bronze 2s and silver 5s on my team vs silver 3s :). The system loves stacking the deck on you in promos lmao but I'll be back in them shortly.

Anyway, all I'm saying is mute the trolls, take good care of yourself, and try to only play for fun. You're getting way too stressed by things you can't 100% control.

Congrats on all that, man. Glad that you've been motivated to improve your life! I, on the other hand, am already making straight A's in college, have two jobs, and League (used to be) a breather for me to escape reality for a bit.

T RexHasTinyArms2 votes

I think it's kinda a good example of how things can motivate you in different ways. I worked full time during my under grad and league was a nice way to blow off steam after a 16 hour day at a psych hospital dealing w/ some intense stuff, and during part of my graduate work it was an interesting application of learning principles when I had to understand really in depth how factors impacted learning.

However, I also have clinical depression which I've gone back and forth with how well it's controlled since high school. At times league has been something to hyper focus on and withdraw from the people around me and has been really unhealthy for me. Like many things in life, it's all about how you use it.

Sammystorm13 votes

Honestly I agree with most, not quite all, of what you say. I think the biggest take away is that the extended down time of the tribunal has made the game's community disintegrate and Riot instead of trying to fix it or do something. They have left the tribunal down and have taken more aggressive stance against afk's They however have not been this lax about the community ever before. Hell their are even guides on lolking explaining how to troll and why it is a good time because the tribunal is down. It is a bad time to be part of this community.

WolfBV1 votes
Sammystorm1 votes

This one put a bit more effort into it.

http://www.lolking.net/guides/233097

arcinex7 votes

That was beautiful.

CrazedPorcupine5 votes

And you've put into words why I don't play ranked, and I don't play league more than 1 or 2 games every couple of days.

Mike Teavee5 votes

Thank you all for taking the time to read this wall of text post. I appreciate it. I wish a RED would get a look at it, too.

Lulu Magica5 votes

I didn't read this whole thing, sorry, but I do agree with the parts about the horrid community. It's definitely worse this season and I've been avoiding ranked because of it. Kids will literally spend the entire game TYPING and then wonder why they lose so much. You should never ever have time to type, unless you're dead and it's "It's ok team, we got this. Doing good!"

I've found that being positive no matter what really helps, and last season for me was so much fun because more people knew this. Or maybe I just got lucky with grouping last season, idk, but this season is just awful. I was in S1 and lost my promos into gold and it's just been downhill from there. If you can't say something at least nice then just keep your mouth shut, you have no idea how bad you make yourself look when you try to start a war in a 20-30 min internet game. Go pet a puppy or something.

Orbv1 votes

You're so fortunate to ever have games end that soon =/

But I agree. I've recently gotten a key to play the Smite Beta on Xbox One. But while I played yesterday, I thought, let me go to play a ranked league game as a break. Won my first one, good game on both ends. But my second game was hell. We had a vladamir bashing how bad the whole team was the whole game. Yes he was doing well, but for a person who was 5/1/0, he never as able to take the turret from Gnar and he couldn't stop his push. Gnar took 2 of his turrets...in any case, we were wrecked by poppy and he kept calling us all kids who need to grow up. But he was the one whining....

It immediately made me go back to Smite.

air tiger1 votes

I don't mean to split hairs here, but people who have 0 emotional maturity should definitely NOT go get a puppy.

Lulu Magica1 votes

[{quoted}](name=air tiger,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=VewkYHew,comment-id=00130001,timestamp=2015-06-15T15:46:16.766+0000)

I don't mean to split hairs here, but people who have 0 emotional maturity should definitely NOT go get a puppy.

*pet Just go somewhere with puppies behind a safe set of bars and pet them

ohaiii3 votes

this game would be much less toxic if LP was earned on an algorithm based on personal performance rather than win/loss.

The Lexer2 votes

Really good post man. Hope Riot notices this

TheRainInSpain2 votes

New build? Get threats. New champion? People scream meta breaking. Being forced into a role you don't play very well? Omfg noob uninstall get shot by gangs.

Ranked is ten times worse.

Wumachine2 votes

tl;dr

Project Riven2 votes

The majority of the league community can be put into two categories.

Sadistic and Masochist Accuser and the Accused Aggressor and Defender

The rest will fall into the Neutral category.

To elaborate what those categories mean, either category will be detrimental to your health. You're either the person raging or the person being raged at. Then there is the neutral category where people can play the game and be unaffected by any comments and action of the game.

With that said, I think what this does is, it brings out this side of you in real life. For me personally, I think I've gotten more grumpy in real life ever since I played League. People make little mistakes and I would question myself and sometimes confront them as to why they do it.

The thing that use to really anger me in League is losing and because of that, I was categorized as the Aggressor due to me raging at people making stupid mistakes.

Over time, I start to realize how this is affecting my real life and that not everything can go perfect the way you want them to. Although what League brought to me is still lingering within me, I've learned that to actually enjoy life and League (which I love to play), and that I must not fall under either of those first two categories. I've learned to ignore people making comments like "why" or any other raging comments and just play the game neutrally. There are even times, when I am in the mood, I would even make a humor out of people's comments and mistakes and honestly, this is the best method to extinguish any raging and stuff that affects your enjoyment of the game.

So ask yourself this important question, which category do you want to be in?

Mike Teavee2 votes

I like how you explained the different types. I tend to fall into the "I'll just mute anyone instead of make a comment back." But over time, game after game, it does start to get to me. And even if I mute them and write them off as insignificant, my teammates do not always practice the same measures to ensure quality play. A majority of the time, I find my team arguing with the aggressor, playing worse, and spamming FF@20. When one person infects your entire team with the mentality of 'this is lost, I'm just gonna feed/tilt' then it makes it extremely difficult to enjoy playing. I just want to rank up and play with better players. I like a challenge. But the only challenge League gives to me in low-mid Gold is the challenge to retain my self-worth when the game is over. That isn't how it should be

Biffolo1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mike Teavee,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=VewkYHew,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2015-06-14T15:57:45.958+0000)

I like how you explained the different types. I tend to fall into the "I'll just mute anyone instead of make a comment back." But over time, game after game, it does start to get to me. And even if I mute them and write them off as insignificant, my teammates do not always practice the same measures to ensure quality play. A majority of the time, I find my team arguing with the aggressor, playing worse, and spamming FF@20. When one person infects your entire team with the mentality of 'this is lost, I'm just gonna feed/tilt' then it makes it extremely difficult to enjoy playing. I just want to rank up and play with better players. I like a challenge. But the only challenge League gives to me in low-mid Gold is the challenge to retain my self-worth when the game is over. That isn't how it should be

Part of the game is mental fortitude and the ability to perform under stress. That's how any online game with a ranking system is. It's an important skill to have. I don't quite have it perfected, not even close and have went on serious depression trips. But complaining about it isn't going to do anything. Just like any other skill, you need to practice it and get used to it.

Mike Teavee2 votes

I'd say I am a pretty strong person when it comes to this. But when it comes to other people getting upset and intentionally ruining my gaming experience or throwing the game intentionally, that's when it kind of becomes aggravating. Especially gaining two or three tiers and then getting repeated offenders in my games. I gain some, then I lose it all again. Some days it seems every game I join, there are very negative dynamics surrounding each and every game. I just grow tired of working hard to perfect my play, work with the team, positively influence the community, and grow as a person only to be shut down by the ranking system and the community's asinine behavior.

Gallowgrim1 votes

Banning the ragers and toxic brats without pity or remorse would sort it, however.

If eSports are going to be a thing, we need the same thing that would happen to screaming brats shouting insults on the ball court/field/diamond happening to the ones who do it here.

LoL Ergo Urgot1 votes

Too bad riot won't do that. Little children make them some decent money I would presume.

air tiger1 votes

There's not a single person who is "uneffected by any comments and action of(sic) the game."

Trolls/Ragers/Flamers/AFKers and general toxic salt bads WILL affect anyone they play with. Even if you mute them immediately, or even if you are focused enough to not be bothered by their raging/flaming/etc, they will affect your game. They will affect your attempts at teamwork, your chance to take objectives, your chance to secure kills, your chance to WIN THE GAME. They affect you, no matter what.

You think you can escape with a mute? Please. There are tons of people on this thread who claim to mute the idiots, but they are still here giving input on why the system is failing the community so hard.

All that said, I do think humor is an interesting and viable way to diffuse a situation and I congratulate you on finding a way to play the game without letting crazies get to you. I think it is possible to be mostly unaffected - I just happen to believe that this personal capability/awareness/control is used in lieu of a functional system that's capable of handling toxics appropriately.

Project Riven1 votes

[{quoted}](name=air tiger,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=VewkYHew,comment-id=000d0001,timestamp=2015-06-15T16:02:40.606+0000)

There's not a single person who is "uneffected by any comments and action of(sic) the game."

Trolls/Ragers/Flamers/AFKers and general toxic salt bads WILL affect anyone they play with. Even if you mute them immediately, or even if you are focused enough to not be bothered by their raging/flaming/etc, they will affect your game. They will affect your attempts at teamwork, your chance to take objectives, your chance to secure kills, your chance to WIN THE GAME. They affect you, no matter what.

You think you can escape with a mute? Please. There are tons of people on this thread who claim to mute the idiots, but they are still here giving input on why the system is failing the community so hard.

All that said, I do think humor is an interesting and viable way to diffuse a situation and I congratulate you on finding a way to play the game without letting crazies get to you. I think it is possible to be mostly unaffected - I just happen to believe that this personal capability/awareness/control is used in lieu of a functional system that's capable of handling toxics appropriately.

I think it's possible to completely ignore people's comments. Like if you take a glance at a comment, you can easily distinguish being toxic or if it's strategy related. At this point, you only have two modes, accept or ignore. When toxicity is identified, instantly go on ignore mode and focus on the game. On top of that, you have to get yourself into a mood with a sense of humor to tackle these team mistakes and bad decision making. Like tell yourself "gg" jokingly when a teammate dies, instead of typing it out or scream when you're running away from Cho'gath with 10 hp, dodging his Q and W and if you get caught, just laugh at yourself how hard you tried. Each expression you do will loosen the tension you have with the game and will lessen the effect negative comments have on you.

However, I think me and you would agree that it is not easy for many people. For me, it goes like this from worst to bad.

  1. AFK/DC, nothing anybody can do about it. Although I've learned to try and cheer the team up with humor about winning a 4v5, but if the 3 other player on the team have little bit of doubt and negative it just goes to shit.
  2. Trolls, can't do anything about them when they're intended to troll since humor or jokes will just put fuel in the fire.
  3. Ragers, they don't affect me as much as for some people. It's like internet bullying, would you let it get to you?
  4. Noobs, least thing I worry about since everybody is new once. I don't understand why some people rage on them. If you be nice to them and share advice, they'll most likely try harder to "be" with the team.
Crett2 votes

the game only needs two things from you to be healthier irl friends to play with you, and stop playing ranked because ranked is hell no matter what

Mike Teavee2 votes

Thank you for all of your feedback, guys. I really enjoy this type of constructive criticism and positive thoughts. No one has been disrespectful thus far and I just want to say that I appreciate that more than I can express. Hopefully this thread can continue to grow so maybe it will catch the attention of a RED

LoL Ergo Urgot2 votes

I don't play ranked anymore. I play normals. Best thing is when I get afks, ragers, or inept players who need more experience, I don't loose any lp. I try to play with a mentality (if something goes wrong) "Oh my, that was less than fortunate, what do I need to do to improve that scenario".

I've lost respect for riot's ranking system, and I don't take them serious on their "Competitive game" propaganda. I play the game for what it is.

Good post, I can sympathize with the majority of this.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mike Teavee,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=VewkYHew,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-06-14T05:02:23.539+0000)

Couple that with the anxiety that fucking up will result in a slew of new titles that you never even knew you were - like fuckboy, faggot, dickhead, and things of the like.

I get that regularly from one of my friends. But seriously, I know what you mean. This game has a horrible community, maybe not the worst, but horrible.

Gallowgrim1 votes

It needs a good, merciless cleansing. If Riot showed a QUARTER of the remorseless pitiless robotic attention to the trolls and ragekiddies as they did with that idiot Leaverbuster system...

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Sadly, it would be too easily abused. What they really need is more people to look at these cases and see who is actually wrong in reported cases.

Gallowgrim1 votes

That's my point friend. I bloody despise Leaverbuster, but it shows Riot cares about AFKs to the point they OUGHT be caring about toxicity.

cPlmPiCGyr1 votes

Another thing why ranked isn't worth it: Even higher elo players are toxic. You can't escape from it no matter which league you're in. Some have less toxicity. So, I was just playing with my friend. I'm nasus, and teemo's top lane. Im losing hard, especially since enemy jungler is camping top, so I call for Udyr(my friend) to come top and help. We successfully got 2 kills, and won. But after game, Tristana reports me for feeding intentionally.

Silents4291 votes

Oh good it all boiled down to "We want tribunal, Riot's report system sucks"

Wonderful.

Mike Teavee1 votes

Not quite. If you read the article for what it is, I have stated that the lack of a justice system has shown that no matter what behavior the players exhibit, they will get away with it. And the only behavior that actually has a program put in place to punish users is LeaverBuster. I don't care about the tribunal. Their report system is very unresponsive and is a waste of time. What I want is for there to be more incentives for the community to rise up to a more positive level to become a welcoming atmosphere rather than a hostile environment. The point of this article was to state that the community, the lack of punishment, and the growing popularity of the game have psychiatric effects like anxiety, constant pressure, depression, self esteem loss, etc. etc. A game that is competitive shouldn't only revolve around who has the bigger mouth.

Silents4293 votes

Except the game has been getting less toxic based on the stats they keep posting.

Mike Teavee2 votes

Based on stats without any source of backup information except Riot's word. Lyte can post statistical data all he wants. None of it tested in a controlled environment. Hell, a majority of it isn't even based on data gathered from humans, but rather the amount of reports received. And if you have been playing at any time for the past two years, you will notice that most players have the "Why would I report him? It's not going to do anything anyway," mentality. So when your justice system is down and everyone knows that it is not working, what's the use in using it? It's like talking to a brick wall.

Silents4293 votes

And under what circumstances should anyone listen to your "facts" on the league community then? Where is your source of information? We just take your word for it and assume Riot is lieing to us?

Aerothal1 votes

i only trust statistics that i falsified myself!

Jazzy Jesus1 votes

It really shouldn't revolve around who has the bigger mouth at all...

It should revolve around teamwork, friendliness, and the willingness to help others who struggle.

Which I see none of in any ranked matches. That is why I try not to go ranked at all because unless you are a GOD at this game, you will never skip over Bronze, and THAT's where most of the trolls, toxics, and overall shitty player-base is.

For example, a ranked that I JUST played as a provisional game. I went Soraka as support, and my Jinx and I had to deal with a Taric and a Graves.

Great matchup, right?

Well, we had gotten to pick first, which made it worse that we got counter-picked. Both Taric and Graves got Chogath level fed for only 2 reasons:

1.) Our jungler Udyr never ganked, or at least not any good ones. 2.) Fuck Taric's stun. Worse than Ashe's in my honest opinion.

Even so, after we obviously lost, our Udyr and our top-laner Velkoz (really?) went nuts on our asses, saying we intentionally fed them and didn't even TRY to counter-pick. Tried multiple times to explain to them that it wasn't our fault, that we couldn't deal nearly enough damage to either of them and we could never get away. But neither of them cared.

So umm... Apparently there's someway to counter-pick after you've locked in? Anyone wanna tell me how to do that?

Did I mention that both our Udyr and their Graves are Bronze? Did I also mention that Udyr said "anyone in Bronze can get the kind of score Graves has"? Did I ALSO mention that Udyr didn't even get CLOSE to the score Graves got, thus making his previous statement complete bullshit?

Anyway, the point of this is that this is why competitive play in this game should be completely removed until something is done about the absolutely crap player-base.

AsheGetsGanked1 votes

I'll comment on this post. I'm generally a toxic player, however, i wanna make it clear why this has happened. First, it's more of a reactive effect on me. I don't want to be toxic to others, but I cannot help myself when somebody else is also being toxic or the team just does the stupidest things ever. You know the toxicity of a person just builds up and up to the point where there isn't really where a player can be reformed. I for myself cannot be reformed as this game isn't worth trying to be nice to other people. There's no point in simply reforming, because you just clearly stated why.

I don't enjoy the game like I used to.

air tiger1 votes

"You can't help yourself" is an excuse. So you've given yourself an excuse to be toxic, what's to stop you? There's no room to reform?

You need a healthy dose of personal responsibility before you go out into the world and get shrekt by your own belief system. Not trying to be rude or troll - this is real advice. That kind of attitude is real life cancer that I don't wish for anyone to have to deal with.

AsheGetsGanked1 votes

[{quoted}](name=air tiger,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=VewkYHew,comment-id=00220000,timestamp=2015-06-15T18:59:23.446+0000)

"You can't help yourself" is an excuse. So you've given yourself an excuse to be toxic, what's to stop you? There's no room to reform?

You need a healthy dose of personal responsibility before you go out into the world and get shrekt by your own belief system. Not trying to be rude or troll - this is real advice. That kind of attitude is real life cancer that I don't wish for anyone to have to deal with.

becuz people aren't as stupid irl, don't act as stupid, and ur not trapped in a toxic environment like in LOL. and ur not gonna talk shit to people, at least i won't irl

Jragon Justus1 votes

Just the other day, I freaked out and had an anxiety attack during a game (actually, it was right when my friend said "want to play a normal?"). I was 5 - 0 with Lucian for pete sakes...I was doing "good." I thought about it hard and realized I am conditioned to feel that way now because I got "yelled" at so much before by people. I wasn't even getting talked to by anyone! It was the fear that they eventually would. They didn't. It took 2 hours for me to calm down again.

Creamy Seaman1 votes

I needed this wake up call. I'm done. It's like playing a rigged lottery machine that draws in addicts. Uninstalling. Costing way too much money with very little reward. Bye guys.

ShaftyMegee1 votes

I had a really hard time reading this. You jumped from point to point back to points to much

air tiger1 votes

To all the internet sheep clones begging for a TL;DR - please, fuck off. Enjoy your virtual illiteracy and the plentiful bounty that comes with it.

Mike Teavee1 votes

So, to bring back my points in this post, I will provide you with a screenshot of the game I just got out of. Darius lost top (0-6 in 10 minutes), Malphite went mid, and bot lane was constantly dead. Now I was trying to help top and mid as best as I could. Literally no one would listen to pings, calls, or anything. I was trying to just be a neutral factor in the game until I got farmed up and hit 6. I ganked many times, despite their accusations.

I marked out the names for Riot's Policy's sake, but feel free to take in the community. After 55 minutes of being called retarded, trash, bad, garbage, shit, and to kill myself, I was getting pretty tired of it. At one point in the game, the 5-15 Darius said, "We'll just all 4 report you cuz u suck and its 4 reports to 1 so gl LOL"

Mike Teavee1 votes

@Riot, are you ever going to actually give a shit about the stigma this game carries? Take a second and step back from the money and the publicity that eSports gives you and give back to the players who make this game even possible. Without us, this game would just be another useless MOBA. And this community is the worst scourge I have ever witnessed. When will you take a stand to make a change? Or are we just going to keep getting Lyte's bullshit Twitter replies on statistical data with no backing?

Mike Teavee1 votes

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