Why is Annie even allowed to be viable?

SaltyToplaneGoat··4 votes·650 views

We keep Taric on trash tier because he is mechanically too simple, same thing with Sona. These champs are so easy to pick up and to play that if they were actually strong in ranked they would be completly op as 100% of their power can be accessed pretty easy. Ya know you can still play those champs and maybe win a game or so, but it is highly recommended to pick up a champ with a higher mechanical level and play with these.

But for some reason we STILL have no Annie nerfs.

And I tell ya what out of all mages in mid this one causes so much frustration it's unbelievable. Playing against some assassin? Whatever, they have to put themselves at risk mostly and if they get strong they STILL don't have hard instant cc. Playing against literally any other mage? Also fine. but Annie? No, fuck that.

I understand getting outplayed or losing a contest of skill. But losing against Annie is not that. There is barely anything in her kit that has "fail"-potential. Nothing you could dodge, nothing big you as a player could screw up... "Here let me pick this champ that will make me less likely to lose by default i and I can be 0/14235/0 and still be a massive thread to teamfights."

On top of that she is mainly the reason AP supports can't have nice things (which is the point that pisses me off the most actually). We had a strong spellthief's edge once? Oh sorry Annie abused it and became the number 1 support? Annnd it got nerfed - and since then nothing because "ap mages might suddenly go bot". This ain't about mages. Lux support was a normal thing once, WAY before we had actual support items and no one cared or though of it as OP. It's really just Annie.

So either you give her kit some goddamn complexity so she actually has to put effort into her play or nerf her to the ground.

Simple possible fixes:

1.) Turn Q into a skillshot. She could even keep the mana refund then, wouldn't care much about that. 2.) Tibbers cast no longer instant. This should have been done ages ago and everyone opposing this change is a salty Annie main abusing the unhealthiest part of her kit to win games. 3.) Make Q and W also interact with Tibbers when he is summoned. We have done this with the molten shield, why not give special effects to Q and W too?

7 Comments

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Oh a downvote. Annie mains are fast today it seems...

Hugify2 votes

are you saying taric Is unviable?

because he's pretty good tbh.

Trash MammaI2 votes

The only thing "broken" about annie is her ability to sit on a stun and zone you for so long and maybe her tibbers being on such an insanely low cd (or so it seems)

TF got his PaC nerfed because he was able to zone for so long. Annie on the other hand gets to do it forever

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

THis is pretty much the reason why she is such a pain on botlane. On mid she uses her Q to farm so she does not keep that stun forever. But as a support she becomes a champ with limitless zone potential.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Taric isn't unviable; he's actually quite strong.

His main issue is that he is more of a generalist than a specialist and isn't designed to excel early game. Some champions offer better sustain (Soraka), some offer better engage/lockdown (Thresh Leona Nautilus ), some offer better peel/protection (Braum Janna ), but he provides a good mixture of all of them.

Essentially, Taric helps his ADC survive through laning phase with his sustain and stun, allowing him to scale into a fighter with massive amounts of utility as the game progresses. At 3 or 4 items, Taric can fight many top-lane bruisers on relatively equal terms even with primarily support items while offering far more to his team.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Some seaons ago we had a time when Taric was actually strong. Like, the Number 1 support you would bring to botlane. He was picked more than Tresh is picked today - and so Riot had to nerf him. Hard. Now he sits in an awkward "I am kinda outclassed by most other champs" spot.

warpenguin5551 votes

because every champion should be viable. all the reason you need

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