Riven wouldn't be as bad to face if her early game cooldowns were truly punishable

AstroFerrari ·7/29/2019, 7:21:59 AM·4 votes·1,538 views

Especially when it comes to top lane, one of the most important things you can and should learn is to punish misuse of enemy cooldowns. For a champion with so much damage, her cooldowns are really forgiving and her build path just adds salt to the wound. I know it's FOTM to hate Tryndamere rn but I would rather face a Trynd than a Riven any day of the week. Even a decent Riven is hard to punish especially if you're also playing a melee champion.

(And yes I have I know Trynd games in my history, just couldn't win with champions that I truly like and am taking time to really learn all I can before playing more ranked.)

4 Comments

WoonStruck7/29/2019, 7:28:09 AM2 votes

Her CDs don't matter much when in the large majority of match-ups she can stat-check you if you get in range of her. Having lane pressure by default for 6+ levels if you aren't suiciding shouldn't be a thing.

Its the same reason Darius, Aatrox, Tahm, etc are bad design. The only way to hope to beat them is to either counter them or not interact with them at all.


Yes, her CDs are an issue, but even if Riot finally nerfed them properly, she'd still be an issue.

I think one of the best fixes for her would be to make it so you only get stacks of her passive if her Q W or R hit a champion and if E blocks damage from a champion.

Would make her less stat-checky, since she often engages by wasting E and 2 Qs. She'd still have OP damage when engaged on or having strong positioning advantage. She'd still have strong damage if she lands Q3, W, and blocks a shot with E. Also encourages players to play more 'optimally' by using her R2 after mid-fight (damage caps) for another stack, since they aren't as free, instead of as a last hit.

Daddy Ants7/29/2019, 3:09:27 PM1 votes

CDR creep is a massive issue in this game that contributes to Riven's "lack of cooldowns".

It's also the reason Mages are spamtastic right now. Another class who is meant to be gated by their cooldowns.

Transcendence, CDR shard, abundance of cdr items in the shop, Spear of Shojin etc.