Someone on my team concedes 1 death and by 6 minutes it's 0 and 7 on the board. There's so much damage and very little resistances.
Edit: For those that say I'm exaggerating, this is just one example of the games I've played that making me have these sentiments about league right now. https://gyazo.com/27642f66cf07ada9b1b2aabca6a52c7d
Nausicäa 44 votesNah according to Riot this pre season is super balanced and its just fringe cases. Meanwhile im getting 100-0'instantly by people without even 1 item completed. Its fine guys Riot knows best.
Jet Sett14 votesI had fun for all of 12 games before everything just started to suck for me and become unfun. I just don't enjoy League right now, so I'm taking a bit of a break and may play it every so often to see how I feel. I've taken long breaks from games before, but never did I have such a view on the game I'm taking a break from.
CrazedPorcupine6 votesI'm the same way. I don't ever feel like a loss is fun. Even games that I win feel like they were just a giant mess and not fun to play.
I uninstalled the game because I was just annoyed and frustrated that the game felt like it was just a giant waste of time.
Bhagswag2 votesI really don't know what is it about League that makes the losses feel so bad. In other games: Overwatch, Battlefield, etc, I never feel so unsatisfied and mad. Because you can always be you, and don't have to deal with exponentially growing stronger enemies.
Serophous4 votesSame here. I basically play a game or two, actually feel bored, then quit
Zaghyr10 votesSame for me too. Every single game is the same bullshit. Everyone does too much damage. Laning phase lasts for 3 minutes, you can't survive ganks, and if you die you lose lane. If enemy bot lane gets even the tiniest lead, you lose. Tanks are broken, MR is low, towers are weak, everyone is picking troll picks like top glacial vayne, or aery garen bot. Some runes are blatantly overpowered and some are just trash. This is by far the most frustrating and unfun preseason ever. Every game makes me want to tear my hair out. Champions I would normally have a high winrate with I can't even win with a 3-0 lead because i'm getting one-shot by half of their team every fight. Winning matchups are now losing matchups. And Riot is waiting too long to patch the major outliers and problems. Some of the changes on the PBE have some promise right now. Others are a fucking joke (the aery 'nerf', the riven 'buff', the tower 'buff', the ezreal 'nerf')
DarkRooster2 votesHonestly your comment has everything in it. Just about sums it all up. Up you go
VexingRaven1 votesthe riven 'buff'
Riven can stay weak as long as she is capable of dashing onto your face even from the very edge of ADC range, tbh. It's no fun playing against somebody who you know as soon as you get anywhere near her will just dash onto your face even if you have an MS buff or a slow, and she won't get off until you die.
InfinitexMortal24 votesYep like that time they said dynamic was better than solo and we were never getting solo back [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] Or the kog rework then revert. They totally know what they are doing
Hexs Fortune40 votesBot lane you have about 2-3 mins before jungles start running amok, then come the mids/ top teleports and now its a clown fiesta.
VexingRaven1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hexs Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mZ83xBBo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-22T02:33:25.111+0000)
Bot lane you have about 2-3 mins before jungles start running amok, then come the mids/ top teleports and now its a clown fiesta.
This depends strongly on which jungler you have. If it's any of the mega burst junglers or super CC junglers, this is true. If you're a jungler who relies on slowly earning a lead, waiting for a power spike, waiting for the right moment, you may as well not even bother ganking anymore because you're just as likely to die as anything.
Scary Door28 votesWhat are you talking about? Laning phase is the best 5 minutes of the game!
Alright, alright... I don't want to be accused of exaggerating, it's actually about 8 minutes or so. Of course, when I started playing in Season One, laning phase was 15-20 minutes.
GayFluffyUnicorn3 votesWell yesterday on my smurf which im only playing right now to have another level 30 acc my botlane wanted to swap with me when i was lvl 5 barely reached lvl 6. A shitty feeling tbh. Didn't even have sheen or anything at that point (was playing camille). It's so depressing, since it was a normal i told my bot to fuck off or i run it down i actually value the 1v1 toplane and dont want to sit under turret vs varus and tahm kench in swap. Unfortunately the clown fiesta came to top anyways with kat and tahm permaganking so yeah. Fun times. I bet when you play talon or kat or kha/lee you might have tons of fun.
Disembark6 votesIts probably because not only did people get better, but you also (and your teammates) got better.
People before were like "let me sit in lane and fight this dude", because they didn't know any better.
Now people have realized that its WAYYYY easier to kill people and get advantages by roaming. Also its a lot less risky (trying to 1v1 your laner is hard, but getting a numbers adv in another lane is 100% in ur favor).
LordGeovanni8 votesPeople did get better but its also that defense items get progressively worse although cheaper overall less effectiveness. then damage gone from melees mage and adc damage increase too.
mew2826 votesI mean when you make bot lane pretty much decide the game on their own everyone is just going to try and impact it. Be it tons o ganks from the jungler roaming from mid or the TP gank from top. All that seems to matter these days is do you get your ADC super fed.
Feathermane9 votesI mean when you make bot lane pretty much decide the game on their own everyone is just going to try and impact it. Be it tons o ganks from the jungler roaming from mid or the TP gank from top. All that seems to matter these days is do you get your ADC super fed.
Have you seen a game where one team's adc wins lane, but the other team's solos both win their lanes? How do those end? Stop this bullshit meme of botlane deciding everything.
Blåbæret7 votesHave you seen a game where one team's adc wins lane, but the other team's solos both win their lanes? How do those end? Stop this bullshit meme of botlane deciding everything.
I've actually observed this on several occassions: I still lost the game even if mid and top got fed. Mages don't have any damage anymore, so they can't carry. Top, if playing a tank, needs an ADC that pumps out consistent damage, a mage can't replace a bad ADC. So it's still a loss since an ADC is easily 30-40% of a team's power budget by mid game. It only goes to show how broken the class is.
ToxicShaco3 votesI've actually observed this on several occassions: I still lost the game even if mid and top got fed. Mages don't have any damage anymore, so they can't carry. Top, if playing a tank, needs an ADC that pumps out consistent damage, a mage can't replace a bad ADC. So it's still a loss since an ADC is easily 30-40% of a team's power budget by mid game. It only goes to show how broken the class is.
Broken? Maybe you forgot what ADC actually stands for. I'll give you a quick refresher.
ADC = Attack Damage CARRY , meaning a champion that usually has low health but deals a lot of damage from auto attacks, or attack damage.
Blåbæret5 votesHonestly not seeing your point here.
There are other forms of carries in this game, ADCs aren't the only type (which you seem to think), but are the dominant type which overshadows everything else. They need to be nerfed and/or reworked from their zero counterplay ranged right-click spam.
ToxicShaco2 votesHonestly not seeing your point here.
There are other forms of carries in this game, ADCs aren't the only type (which you seem to think), but are the dominant type which overshadows everything else. They need to be nerfed and/or reworked from their zero counterplay ranged right-click spam.
My point is they are suppose to be stronger. They are meant to be the carry. Weak early, strong mid-late. That is their job. Just like an assassin is meant to delete squishy targets. Just like a tank is suppose to absorb damage and engage fights.
Blåbæret5 votesADCs haven't been weak early for an entire season.
ToxicShaco2 votesADCs haven't been weak early for an entire season.
maybe riot should just make them useless again
LordGeovanni4 votesname a time when adcs were useless yet some how mandatory every game every meta since season 2
LordGeovanni4 votes4
Bottom Laner1 votes
You called?
DarkRooster3 votesYou mean weak first 5 min and by 10 min completely unstoppable can solo melt full tanks. Yeah this game is in very healthy state... it seems like this is where they are going, summoners rift games under 10 min, judging by the repeating useless rotation game modes its exactly that.
2Charmnot2Charm3 votesI think mages do damage, it's just the fact that their damage is mainly skillshots which can be dodged while the enemy adc has a 100% chance of hitting you with their damage because it's ranged auto attacks.
VexingRaven1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Carries U,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mZ83xBBo,comment-id=0001000000010003,timestamp=2017-11-22T15:05:25.527+0000)
I think mages do damage, it's just the fact that their damage is mainly skillshots which can be dodged while the enemy adc has a 100% chance of hitting you with their damage because it's ranged auto attacks.
Or because the ADC just gets a shield. Even better now that you can get a free shield from overhealing so you enter the battle with an extra 25% hp or whatever it is.
Søn oƒ Echidnæ15 votes100% agree. There is no laning phase anymore. Now, with the huge damage output and all time low defenses, bot lane's ADC doesn't need to force a 10 min FF. Hell, the enemy support will, by himself, because his ADC decided to troll and pick daisies. Literally.
Not to mention the massive drop in FPS a lot of players have as of the last couple patches.
Fuck the power spikes and 3 minute turrets.
Some of us can't play the game at all, enjoyment or not.
2kewl4life9 votesSame. I totally agree. My botlane gave first blood and then the next few minutes were pure treachery and horror. (Fed Vayne)
InfinitexMortal16 votesI still dont get why Riot thinks 
has such a hard laning phase. Every i see is 3/0 in the first 5 minutes.
Mordepool12 votesShe doesn't it's an old excuse that is no longer valid
GayFluffyUnicorn8 votesShe never had a bad laning phase or early like most of the hypercarries it. Caitlyn was just so frickin overtuned that she won every lane by default the last two seasons now that caitlyns oppressiveness is mostly gone these champs come back. Also rito buffed vaynes early game with Q. Now she doesnt crit q you for 1k dmg anymore but 5-600 is still in on top of better early game.
FB Ospraey7 votesI main top and the games I firstblood or out pressure, I find I get first tower before 10 minutes. kind of ridiculous even without the demolition rune.
CrazedPorcupine7 voteslet's not mention that damageless supports like Ivern, Raka, and (Bard who is honestly mostly utility with one big damage ability) are struggling to find footing in this early game where they should SHINE. (Ignore Janna, because she's fucking janna and she'll never ever ever be bad).
Aery should be a rune that ONLY provides bonus shielding to allies. It shouldn't be one of the best damage runes in the game.
also, I want soraka to actually have decent health regen. I can't ever feel like I can survive laning phase anymore.
JackMcSnipeyz5 votesIvern is a jungler first, rakkan is doing fine he's extreamly safe and has great set ups, and bard has plenty of damage, one of the highest for a support i dont see how he struggles when he can almost solo the adc with ignite early.
Of course tho hard engage supports like leona and ali kinda counter them, but that's just the current meta.
LordGeovanni3 votesIf arey was a shielding only supports wouldnt take it they would take commet or electricute
Succubús GF5 votesBecause riot cant admit they fucked up idk
Thilmer5 votesI can consistently tell you if I'm going to win or lose a match at minute 5. But the match can last 30 minutes.
Is a complete waste of time playing a 30 minute game when there is no way to make a comeback.
Snowplosion4 votesI'm sorry are we playing the same game? Doesn't seem like we are.
Søn oƒ Echidnæ15 votesWe are. User player views may differ but a lot of us have been around long enough to know that the current 3-5 minutes of laning phase, isn't a laning phase anymore. It's a kill lane, disguised as a minion killing lane, until first blood hits and then it's a slaughter house. The minions are just a bonus for gold acquisition, if you bother killing them anymore other than accidentally.
Dying Instinct4 votesNot really my experience. Yes, early leads are stronger than before. Still, you can pretty easily come back from 0/1. It's not until 0/2 or 0/3 where it becomes a problem. Still, I agree that lane needs to be slightly less snowbally. However, that will likely come naturally when people start taking less glass cannon runes.
Mob Piru2 votesyeah as a adc main i found taking resolve path as secondary to be pretty rewarding
Darkvaine4 votespeople don't know how to play from behind. they start forcing fights they cant win.
Liveey3 votesI feel myself playing arams more because normals are kinda boring.
We either lose badly or barely win.
However most of the time we are facing diamond players (I am unranked)
We fought against a diamond ez with clepto and he DESTROYED our team, we were lucky, just barely won. Death timer increase ftw we worked as a better team.
HideInGranny3 votesI completely get what you're saying. In my games either my team or the enemy team will break lanes as early as 8 minutes to constantly group and push a single lane.
Where did 20 minute laning phase go?
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
Lucrativic2 votesI agree on this so damn much. When you die one time you get tower dived 1v1 constantly with no counterplay to it.
AirKingNeo2 votesLaning phase doesn't even exist top lane. It's Jayce, Pantheon, Maokai, or Gnar just poking and farming you away and auto winning all trades, making it impossible to play.
