Can we get some minor compensation in Evelynn's clear since she got a pretty big damage nerf?

ReshiKillim·Jan 25, 2018·4 votes·356 views

Can we get some compensation in the form of increased charm proc damage vs monsters from allure? No increase of damage towards enemy champions, just some more damage vs monsters to compensate for the nerf to her clear that came with the whiplash damage nerfs.

Evelynn had a pretty weak early clearing phase already, so could we get a bit more flat damage against monsters to compensate for how the big nerfs to whiplash has impacted her clear speed?

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Akali is SO HOTJan 25, 20181 votes

Eve's clear is still pretty good even after the nerfs. Her first clear is definitely harder than before, but it's not too bad which was sorta the point of the nerfs. Also, this video shows you a little trick you can do to get massive heals from the jungle item while doing red buff. Very useful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q-sda-f4sY

AzadetheJan 25, 20184 votes

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Eve's clear is still pretty good even after the nerfs. Her first clear is definitely harder than before, but it's not too bad which was sorta the point of the nerfs. Also, this video shows you a little trick you can do to get massive heals from the jungle item while doing red buff. Very useful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q-sda-f4sY

Her clear capability is fine. Her clear SPEED on the other hand is the problem. if you time her clear vs all your other major junglers, she on average takes a full 38 seconds longer on first clear, and it gets bigger over time, because other junglers begin to just level skills that increase move speed, buy item 3077 , and 2-3 shot campsl.

Evelynn's camps have a windup, unless you clear without it (W), and her Q's per hit damage is MUCH lower than other junglers.

For example, it takes Evelynn about 19.8 seconds to kill Blue. It takes Yi about 11.3 seconds, and Udyr about 10.1 Seconds. And Yi can Clear Wraiths fine. Udyr after he gets a item 3077 Clears wraiths fine, or before if Phoenix stance.

The only thing about Evelynn's clear that is solid is her passive. But other champs heal out of jungle damage better, faster, and get online much earlier in the game:

Warwick Nocturne Nidalee MasterYi Shyvana Shaco

(Something you need to realize is..... every Q takes up 3.2 seconds in jungle. Although her clear looks pretty and has neat time distortion, it's actually taking a long time)

WimbledofyJan 26, 20181 votes

I thought warwick had a slow clear, I can't see Eve's first clear being slower than warwicks first clear.

AzadetheJan 26, 20181 votes

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I thought warwick had a slow clear, I can't see Eve's first clear being slower than warwicks first clear.

WW has a pretty fast first clear. It's slow at wraiths but fast on other camps, and after first clear he has a item 3077 Which doubles the speed of subsequent clears, because every jungle minion he Q's will be proccing W. and aoe spamming.

WimbledofyJan 25, 20181 votes

I never found evelynn's clear to be weak. You can basically clear without having to recall or smite at all. The E nerf was pretty big though.

ReshiKillimJan 25, 20181 votes

Evelynn has no problem in doing a full clear, but her clear speed is rather low in comparison to the average junglers. Like, 25 seconds longer than the average for a full clear, which makes her a lot more vulnerable to early invades.

The reason why her clear speed is bad but she has no problem clearing, is the healing from demon shade, rather than her usual damage output towards monsters.