There is no way promos use the same matchmaking
I can't prove it. But I know it it's true from the bottom of my heart.
Promotional games give you harder games.
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There would be a way to prove it if we could see MMR, still convinced the only reason they took that away from us was so they could play loose and dirty with match making.
You're right. Promos have MMR inflation and are harder than usual. It's not news.
Promos are created to stop progress and lock you into a division unless you are lucky or really good but then you get worse and worse teams. In my last play promos out team average was g2 and we had a s1 and their team averaged p3-p2 and I ended up losing it. It pisses me off so much knowing how imbalanced it is.
I believe Riot stated at one point that in Promos you play against players from the rank/mmr you're trying to move to.
I don't know if that's STILL the case, mind you. But the logic when I read that was that in order to rise you had to prove you were good enough to deserve it.
This is why the promo meme exist there is a difference and it shouldn't be this way if I win on fair grounds 5 times in a row I shouldn't be punished in my promo's I understand this is to stop luck climbing but its extremely harsh when your team has an average of 2-3 ranks lower than your enemy! also just because you are duo doesn't mean you can carry a lot harder what if our mmr is super high? now add in rank... and all of a sudden to average the teams you get the worst of the worst because you both have very high mmr… match after match... this feels more like punishment for duo'ing
Promos are not harder. The stress you put on yourself when you play your promos make them harder.
Yeah promotional games are harder, but its like 50/50, half the games are free, half are hard.
Ikr, Im convinced that they secretly put me in an Iron 4 team everytime Im in promos
It has been proven and proven and even commented on that Rito enforces a roughly 50% win streak. Adjusted by MMR. To GET to promos, you are on a win streak. It is only logical that byt the time you do, your MMR is already at the higher rank, therefore placing you in said higher ranked games.
My only kicker to this is, EVERYONE in the promo needs to be, at MINIMUM, close to the same rank.
But for the all the "averaging" of freaking MMR that goes on , you could potentially get someone from 5 + or more divisions lower than yours in your promo. And THAT is for the fucking birds. That is what needs to be fixed.
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I can't prove it. But I know it it's true from the bottom of my heart.
Promotional games give you harder games.
Promos are harder but they do use the same matchmaking. It depends on the math: essentially, when you win your MMR increases, which means that the system will give you an harder game next. To enter promos you have to win a game. Thus, you always get harder games when you enter promo because you can't enter promos without first increasing your MMR.
If you can't prove it despite all of the information available on the league api, it is probably because your theory is wrong. If promo games actually did use a different matchmaking, you can easily just pull a bunch of promo games and compare the players to non-promo games.
"Guys, ____ champion is in his promos, lets make him lose"
is sadly a phrase I've heard a few times in ranked.
It's not true.
I have had countless games where there would be people in promos on BOTH TEAMS.
Explain to me who gets the worse teammates.