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[Item Concept] Death Blade

Stacona··2 votes·861 views

This item is to aid in both the AD caster types of marksmen and for AD assassins to give them both an item with high AD with the lost to BT's (overpowered BTW) 100 AD to 80 AD for marksmen that rely more so on their abilities for their damage and aid assassins to grant high assassination attempts similar to mage-assassin's DFG.

Death Blade:

Cost: B.F. Sword(1550g) + Pickaxe(875g) + 875g = 3300g

Stats: 80 Attack Damage UNIQUE Passive "Sharpened Blade": Increase bonus attack damage by 30%. UNIQUE Active "Death's Strike": Increase bonus attack damage by 150% for 2.5 seconds. Sharpened Blade is disabled while Death's Strike is on cooldown. 90 seconds cooldown.

~ Stacona

**Edit: ** Changed Death's Strike to increase the bonus attack damage by 150% for 2.5 seconds from increase all physical damage dealt by 30% for 3 seconds Sharpened Blade is still disabled while Death's Strike is on cooldown and the cooldown is still 90 seconds long

19 Comments

Worgslarg2 votes

Seems a little op for a ratio driven carry.

For a pure autoattack carry, the 30% bonus attack damage all the time is far more potent than the active.

Stacona1 votes

The item itself, while the passive is enabled, gives 104 AD- but i wanted to give an item for marksmen like MF, Graves, and possibly Draven can use and rush as their main damage item and make these champions viable once again without going over board like how BT used to be by having it only give damage and not damage and utility (infinity edge, trinity, and blade users will still be strong, Death Blade is just to open up more marksmen diversity that like to have flat out raw AD to amplify their ability damage)- also i wanted AD assassin's to have an item similar to mage-assassin's DFG so that whether you pick and AD or AP assassin you can rush the same type of item that is 'activate item, use full spell combo, and try to assassinate my target' i just felt like separating these effects into two items didn't have a large enough champion base like mages do that it be worth it plus i like the feel of the user having to think to whether or not they want more damage over a longer duration or just throw all their eggs in the basket in one short window and hope it works out

overall though i want to be the main damage item for certain champions, the only way to prove if this item is too strong is by play testing (which unfortunately is not something i can have access to) even then that can be resolved by simple number tweaks

tl;dr : i want to open up more champion diversity with the marksmen role and have ad assassins viable again but with the hopes of not making them over the top and be at equal footing to mage-assassins and their DFG

The5lacker2 votes

Infinity Edge. The item you're thinking of is Infinity Edge.

Stacona1 votes

I know you have it out for me, but please don't, I do not swing that way nor will I ever swing that way especially for a douche bag like you. Even though you are just a troll and this doesn't help at all, Infinity Edge only helps out basic attackers, Death Blade is to aid attack damage assassins and attack damage caster types like Miss Fortune and Graves.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Or make Sword of the Divine item 3131 weaker and cheaper, and then upgradeable with a B.F. Sword item 1038. The passive for the Death Blade seems too OP in the wrong hands (or right hands, depending on your side of the blade).

Stacona1 votes

Sword of the Divine is for AA burst, this is to go with AD Caster types even though marksmen like MF and Graves will really like to buy this item as well but they fall under the AD casters of the marksmen role - regardless i wanted the item to be like the AD variation of deathcap hence the same kind of build path and total gold cost as the death hat, the passive is weaker than the hat's because you get a lot less bonus AD than you do with AP which allows room for this risk/reward activation that increases your base damage and base AD for a short time to potentially blow up your target for assassination or deal heavy AoE physical damage with ultimates like Graves' and MF's but then deal a lot less damage after the effect ends

tl;dr : i wanted to give back that high AD item to champions that like having a lot of AD without giving it utility or defense (which was BT's problem and why it was so overpowered)

P.S. Hourglass right now is in the same bad spot as old BT was with instead of granting high offense and high utility it grants high offense and defense, solution to fixing hourglass is changing the build to be instead of large rod it get chain vest and blasting wand and grant 80AP, 100armour, and the same active to have it focus on defense rather than high offense with defense and let deathcap (and DFG) to fulfill the offense items

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

The point is to not make something that's straight up OP. Deathcap exists because the most common use is for skills and not AA, meaning its damage is throttled back by cooldowns and energy/mana. Even though this Death Blade is intended for non-AA based AD champs, AA champs will use it anyway and just not bother with the active for initiation.

Stacona1 votes

30% bonus AD is not greater than 50% increased total AD whenever you critically strike- even with the active portion of it that is 30% increased total AD - infinity edge is still greater when paired with a second crit item like shiv- Death Blade literally is only better in areas than IE in areas where you deal greater ability damage over basic attack damage (Zed will most likely prefer blade over Death Blade still, but Zed is more basic attack focused for his damage too) either way the item is balanced well enough for the AD it gives and passive it grants- the passive does not affect your base AD only the AD you buy from items it increases

The5lacker1 votes

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Stacona1 votes

That is okay because you won't have lifesteal then to get that extra damage and if you do buy a lifesteal item then you are pure glass cannon so you should deal massive damage cause you also die in less than 1 second as a glass cannon This is assumed that you buy mobility via boots or zephyr

The5lacker1 votes

...You've never actually played an ADC have you?

MEMEME6701 votes

This item would never work. Firstly, DFG is an item that sits in a precarious spot balance wise as it is. Riot doesn't like it at all because the existance of it forces them to balance mages that would buy it based on it being in their inventory, giving us two pretty big problems.

1: They can NEVER not buy it. & 2: Until they get it, they're essentially underpowered.

DFG is the one of the root causes of our Ahri and Leblanc problems, and probably other champs too. I don't think anyone wants the same problems repeated with Zed and Pantheon.

Secondly, the item is flat out broken for ADCs. With simply IE + LW + DB, the passive is giving them 60 extra AD, meaning overall it's giving them 140 AD. That's almost double the AD any other item gives.

Stacona1 votes

The active can be adjusted- as far as the passive is concerned i am fine with it giving a bunch of attack damage in the late game scaling better with the more AD items you have and the item is revolving around offense only--- the point to the item is to increase champion diversity- if the item ends up over shadowing other items and only Death Blade users end up getting played then the item will get balanced/toned down slightly so that it is equal to the other high damage items and not stronger than them- as far as i can tell i cannot see the item overpowering the current roster that gets played i can only see more champions getting played you have to do large scale play tests to know how things actually go (aka see how the item works with multi-millions of people on live)

Edyr4201 votes

this would be so op on Zed

Stacona1 votes

Possibly, but Blade will still be better for Zed and then into LW and brutalizer into ghostblade/black cleaver and then he usually builds defense items after that, but if he wants to deal more damage then i am fine with that too with either death blade and/or hydra- people have already tried just rushing straight up flat AD on Zed before the BT balance changes and it wasn't actually good on him at least not before better items like blade and last whisper- For other assassins that prefer flat AD a lot more will enjoy Death Blade and give them back that high AD item they are lacking since BT is no more of an option for them- and as good as hydra is especiially with the extra burst on the active you sit with only two and a half items for AD caster types and less for ranged with hydra, LW, brutalizer- ranged cannot even get hydra

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