unskilled player are probably playing against another unskilled players so braindead champions like 
should be whats stomping them instead of hard champs like 
. Especially when unskilled players takes like 5 seconds to do a ward jump, i dont even know how you can lose to that.
OxBaker2 votesUmm, I've played Lee Sin and you can pretty well roll your face across the keyboard and win without much trouble. If you get good with him it just means you'll decimate the opponents instead of just winning.
Shadow Gilgamesh2 votesBecause everyone has a different definition of "mechanically demanding" Obviously point and click champs like panth or champs like WW who basically has one ability you have to think about how you use are VERY easy to decide if they're over or under powered or not, because almost everyone can perform on the same mechanical level.
But among the champs that DO require some level of skill, I would NOT classify Lee Sin as "demanding" His Q is a high speed skillshot on a low cooldown and with a relatively low cost, so the impact of missing a skillshot is FAR less than say, missing an Amumu Q which has a long cooldown, or a Blitzgrab that takes almost a quarter of his mana at level 1. His secondary abilities on his W and E are largely contextual on if you should use them, not on the fly complex mechanical feats, in other words, know how, not skill. His ult has no cost, so no worries about running out of energy, and it DOESN'T need to hit people other than the first target to be worth using. Strength of Lee Sin aside, I don't think he's anywhere close to this high skill god that people who don't want him nerfed make him out to be.
ForgiveColour1 votesyou have 0 lee sin games and plays only vi and you are saying lee doesnt take skill and in the unskilled player elo lol.
Shadow Gilgamesh3 votesYeah, I have 0 games as a lot of champs, but from watching LCS, streamers, just the spectate function, playing AGAINST champs, and really just basic reading comprehension and the Wiki I can tell what a champ does, where it would be useful, and how hard it is to do it.
I never claimed to be high skill or use actually mechanically challenging champs, I summed up why Lee Sin isn't as hard to use as some people make him out to be, YOU instead basically resorted to saying "lol noob" instead of saying anything meaningful, which is why people like YOU are just as bad as the people who just post "uh, can we remove 95% of lee sins damage, because I'm tired of seeing him" as their entire post.
ForgiveColour1 votesfrom your logic making bills would be easy if you read bill gates biography LOL
Shadow Gilgamesh2 votesI'm not sure how saying second hand exposure to a game is worth something in terms of knowledge of the same game is even close to that. Maybe the reason low skill players are losing to lee sins really IS because lee sin doesn't take that much skill in the first place, Occam's Razor and all that.
But you know what, fine. You obviously believe that your longer gameplay experience and high rank makes you better fit to speak on balance and champ difficulty, so actually speak on it. Tell us why you think Lee Sin is a high skill champ, what specifically in his kit, stats, common core items, etc. MAKES him a high skill champ beyond him just not being point and click, since that's a really low bar.
Sooko1 votesBraindead champions aren't always the ones that stomp most bad players. Any champion can do it in all honesty, and Lee Sin is no exception.