Why should I play Karthus?

Big Lincoln··3 votes·927 views

half salt/half genuine question, i'm kinda pissed after the game i just got off of

as it currently is what reason do I have to re-learn Karthus? he seems like the worst DPS/carry mage besides Azir who's gonna be buffed or changed soon. I hate crutch mages that depend on Rylai's to function and it's starting to feel like he needs it more and more with how mobile the game is getting

I could pick Ryze and nuke people a lot harder with astronomically less effort and have hard CC. If I wanted just pure DPS I could lock in Cassiopeia and have better team utility in W and R and better/more reliable single target DPS. Azir is loads safer and has tons of options for playmaking power. Aurelion Sol is one of those shitty champs that need Rylai's to actually matter (why i stopped playing him, too), but he's got hard CC and self-peel, and he can do cross-map initiates like nobody's business.

starting to feel like the only thing Karthus gets to do is try to find a good spot to suicide into.

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Drakavoid3 votes

Karthus was my main (second main currently)

Let me tell you Karthus is in a better shape than he used to be! His wineate is at 52% and the mages update really helped him back up.

It's true, his kit really doesn't offer much, it's because he's outdated and hasn't been touched ever since he was released beside W nerf. But the thing is, Karthus is a very powerful mage, if you add some hard cc/mobility to him he'll just be too dangerous and overpowered (imagine a lux Q+E+R). A single Q can deal almost 1000 dmg with full build, imagine that per second plus E.

Now, let me answer your question with a list of pros and cons: Pros: -extreme harassment/poke -sustainability (even better with RoD) -bursty and tankier than most mages -very great teamfight -great slow cc -very useful passive that gives you a second chance -global ult!

Cons: -low mobility -main source of dmg (Q) requiers high skillshot and prediction -3 minute CD ult -literally worst AA ingame (I searched it up) -can't protect himself -enemies /allies will get salty when you get kills with your ult

One final note, you don't need Ryali badly! In Fact I always have it as my last time, just learn how to Q and you'll do great.

Big Lincoln2 votes

thanks for the good post. I know a fair bit about Karthus; I've been very on and off with him since season 4 but never really commit enough to call him a main.

my issue with Karthus is just with how fast the game is getting; I can do pretty alright in lane, I try to take advantage of his strong trades, but come mid/late game I absolutely cannot land my damage on fast targets. I really don't like buying Rylai's because I see it as a crutch. Also just that it seems a lot more rewarding to play Ryze or Cass instead; not nearly as skillshot intensive, and I don't get immediately obliterated if I step out of line with these guys

What build would you recommend? I like having a lot of AP so that I can really feel my ultimate doing something, but even when I build a little defensively, I feel incredibly squishy.

Drakavoid2 votes

My usual build is archangel (the mana and shield very useful, and mana -> APscale), RoD, deathcap, CD boots, and my 2 last items are situational, if ap enemy = abyssal, if enemy building mr = void staff, if ad enemy = (zhonya), if I just want dmg and utility = ludens, ryali, and morell.

Regarding enemies are too fast, there are 2 things you can do (assuming not a teamfight scenario), 1. If the enemies are after you, you should have exhaust and drop it on them + W and just start using Q+E. If they happen to be very bursty use archangel. 2. If they're running away, simply use W, even if they flash/dash out the slow is very great you can still catch them. And btw I like taking ghost/exhaust combo.

Big Lincoln1 votes

Alright, that's pretty much the build I've been running, thanks.

I'll give him another try today and see if I have more luck.

Friendly Ram1 votes

Karthus is a constant threat in and out of teamfights. If he dies he becomes an un ccable nuisance while not focusing him is just stupid. I love to play him as a battlemage item 3001 item 3157 item 3027 item 3116 item 3020 and whatever else will be obnoxious. Reason to relearn karthus= fun?

Big Lincoln1 votes

winning is fun for me

i really hate having to build rylai's, too; feels boosted needing the slow just to keep landing your damage.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Because his new portrait has a big dick sucking mouth pose and you think it's funny?

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