make ashe ult a channel

Rustling Bush·Jul 15, 2016·2 votes·572 views

instead of instant cast, how about we make her ult a small channel, kind of like what jinx has, or reduce the ult travel speed and gradually increase as it gains a greater distance.

25 Comments

Blumpkin NationJul 15, 20163 votes

Jinx's ult also deals more damage the (farther it has traveled) + (missing health damage).

So, to be realistic. They are both global ults, but function in different ways. Ashe's arrow is a little thinner in width, too. Which makes it harder to hit at longer ranges.

Void NargacugaJul 15, 20161 votes

And after a certain distance it becomes the longest lasting Stun in the game.

PlacentasJul 15, 20162 votes

Yeah but for the stun to be effective a valid play must have been made. No point in a long stun if nobody is near by to pounce on the stunned enemy.

Void NargacugaJul 15, 20161 votes

That is true. I wouldn't try to make a long distance Ashe ult shot unless I knew it could be followed up anyways, or if I felt it would get a kill.

GaleWinUnleashedJul 15, 20161 votes

AP Ashe ftw! At least screw around in co-op vs AI with that, just for sniping practice. It's basically the only thing that's still challenging in bots.

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Void NargacugaJul 15, 20161 votes

If I where to try to make it work: item 3031 item 3085 item 3508 item 3157 item 3115 ... What would be a decent to good last item?

I really shouldn't be theory crafting such random things. XD

GaleWinUnleashedJul 15, 20161 votes

Possibly Lich Bane? And drop Zhonya's for Deathcap so you can get more AP?

Hardly matters, of course; it's bots, difficult to lose.

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Void NargacugaJul 15, 20161 votes

I'm talking something you could probably take into an actual match and do good with.

GaleWinUnleashedJul 15, 20161 votes

item 3009 ?

Not sure what could be dropped out of that build to fix the CDR overkill. Zhonya's is too useful, and Nashor's really should be present in an AP Ashe build.

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Void NargacugaJul 15, 20161 votes

WAIT! I just realized that build would have no % Penetration... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

item 3508 item 3085 item 3031 item 3135 item 3036 item 3026 (?) Wait... Then it has too little AP... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-akXITFeUr0E/UANfB4t93TI/AAAAAAAABPU/79shbmRz2ww/s1600/Reaction+Head+Bash.gif

GaleWinUnleashedJul 15, 20161 votes

This is why AP Ashe really isn't viable =P

What about building for poke? Liandry's and stuff.

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Void NargacugaJul 15, 20161 votes

Well I made a pretty decent (although very expensive) Hybrid Malzahar build: item 3165 item 3146 item 3135 item 3116 item 3071 item 3512

That is something to think about... Hmm...

GaleWinUnleashedJul 15, 20161 votes

That's evil. Portal on Malz to flood the place with voidlings.

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Void NargacugaJul 15, 20161 votes

Oh I know its evil. https://i.gyazo.com/3ed40fd871a00ba187a4725816a04506.gif

The Last BalladJul 15, 20162 votes

The times you do though, the times you do...

GaleWinUnleashedJul 15, 20162 votes

Yeah... I think I have something like 20 losses and over 3500 wins against bots.

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4th Chiming LambJul 15, 20161 votes

It is an ULTIMATE ability, though...

Void NargacugaJul 15, 20161 votes

Yeah. The second closest ability in longest stun goes to Veigar on his Event Horizon... But that thing is not reliable.

RalanrJul 15, 20161 votes

Jhin's is more semi-global.

GaleWinUnleashedJul 15, 20162 votes

Don't think anybody mentioned Jhin =P

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Blumpkin NationJul 15, 20162 votes

<__< I said Jinx, not Jhin. Haha.

RalanrJul 15, 20161 votes

I'm blind.

HyperiönJul 15, 20161 votes

I am down, I hate how it is instant and everyone elses has a cast time.

DrCyanideJul 15, 20161 votes

It travels slower than Xerath's E, a stun which also scales up with distance traveled (according to the wiki). Why should it be even worse at finding a target in close quarters?

If it's too strong in close quarters, a better nerf would be to reduce the minimum stun time to 0.75 or 0.5 seconds.

Zero Skill TankJul 15, 20161 votes

Channels are usually reserved for abilities that have little to no counterplay otherwise, but giving Ashe's R some more noticeable cast time sounds like a good kind nerf to her. ECA as long-range initiation is fine and cool, but ECA into slowed enemy on bot lane for what's basically a free kill is not. Giving just a bit more time to dodge short-range arrows should reduce Ashe's dominance without nerfing her cool points.