FFS why is there no safe to leave function?
Nobody wants to be held hostage for 17 minutes because someone ragequit 3 minutes in.
Nobody wants to be held hostage for 17 minutes because someone ragequit 3 minutes in.
More people would rage quit if this happened. It would grant trolls more power over games than they already possess.
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More people would rage quit if this happened. It would grant trolls more power over games than they already possess.
?? please elaborate. As it stands the current system forces 4 other people to suffer a 4v5 if someone ragequits on pain of being treated the same as the ragequitter by the leaverbuster system.
?? please elaborate. As it stands the current system forces 4 other people to suffer a 4v5 if someone ragequits on pain of being treated the same as the ragequitter by the leaverbuster system.
Yeah man I would love such system. I've lost like 3-4 games the other day due to ragequitting kids and it got me demoted from g3 to g4 and later to g5.. ;_;
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More people would rage quit if this happened. It would grant trolls more power over games than they already possess.
How? It reduces the power trolls have by allowing other players to walk away from the abusive situation.
The only way this could be abusive is if it was also extended to premade matches where one player takes the punishment so the rest of the team can get the loss forgiven.
The simple solution is to make it so that the "safe to leave" mechanic only effects solo Que.
But I learned many years ago that white knights like you just cant follow logic and require an appeal to authority to make an argument. I'm sure if riot implemented it you would be one of the loudest saying you knew it was needed.
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How? It reduces the power trolls have by allowing other players to walk away from the abusive situation.
The only way this could be abusive is if it was also extended to premade matches where one player takes the punishment so the rest of the team can get the loss forgiven.
The simple solution is to make it so that the "safe to leave" mechanic only effects solo Que.
But I learned many years ago that white knights like you just cant follow logic and require an appeal to authority to make an argument. I'm sure if riot implemented it you would be one of the loudest saying you knew it was needed.
Lol I feel your pain bro. We definitely need this system but with retarded kids who bring up the stupidest illogical arguments against it makes things so difficult.
Sometimes there's an afk at the start (who didn't disconnect while loading) and you can't remake or do anything but pray to god he comes back or hope that your team isn't stupid enough to refuse a surrender vote at 20 min otherwise you are literally HELD HOSTAGE in a game that you know will most likely result in an lose due to just plain unevenness. Or if someone rage quits and then you are stuck with the same bullshit. Or even when say someone just has an emergency and has to go, if he is willing to take the time limit/-LP penalty then why not let him leave? What if his house is on fire or his mom's having a heart attack? makes no fucking sense. Or even just if you see a losing game and want to leave and take the penalty that would be fine too just let a person fucking leave stop forcing people to play. If it's a ranked game and people want to continue trying that's a different story but for normal games it should be different.
abuseable
abuseable
Explain, using logic, not what ever your favourite streamer said.
OP asks a question then down votes the honest answers.
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OP asks a question then down votes the honest answers.
I didn't downvote you before but I guess I will now.
The question was never answered, an unsubstantiated theory was offered and disproven.
Hey man been there, I asked in all if I could leave because the ADC I was sup to was a complete Dbag. But I agree, if there was a safe 'to leave match' function I would never get a game in some days. It would forfiet the match for being unbalanced (I know afkers do this anyways), and you would not be able to report them because it is completely legal. Hence, they would go unpunished for their bad behavior.
Hope that clears it up for you.
Glhf
Since it already happens now, in amounts great enough for players to ask for compensation, what leads you to believe it would happen more often?
The first player to afk would be punished as normal, the only difference is the rest of the team (who currently plays out the imbalanced match out if fear of punishment ) would have the option to leave with out facing the punishments.
The other players would still have their mmr and ranked effected by the loss, but they wouldn't need to wait a half hour before starting a new one.
Basically you seem to think this would increase the number of afks, but have no way to actually argue that it would.
Ffs, other successful games across the genre have implemented this. Why does it suddenly "not work" here even though dota has been using it for years?
Pretty poor forum that doesn't let you delete a double post.
Too logical.
Has nobody mentioned Dota's abandon system on this post? i'm shocked
When you say safe-to-leave, do you just mean that you won't be punished for leaving the game?
That is, MMR and LP reductions would still apply as normal and you just wouldn't have to play out the 4v5.
When you say safe-to-leave, do you just mean that you won't be punished for leaving the game?
That is, MMR and LP reductions would still apply as normal and you just wouldn't have to play out the 4v5.
That's what safe-to-leave means.
I have seen people argue that they shouldn't suffer LP or MMR loss in the past using the same terminology.
It was worth checking to make sure you were using it correctly.