Teach Me How To J4

trash sion··1 votes·571 views

First of all, let me go over why I have difficulty with him.

Where does his damage come from? He doesn't seem auto-attack reliant purely from my experience playing him. Maybe I'm building him wrong, but from what I can tell his first AA does a decent chunk but that's it. If he has enough AD to do decent damage with his autos, he's super squishy. If he's tanky, he does no damage with his autos.

If he's not AA reliant, he must have some combos, right? Not really. E>Q. That's it. You stab someone with a weak little flag, then dash through them. If you build a ton of AD, sure, this could work. You dash through them and do a ton of damage, a couple autos, maybe an ult, but by the time you kill one person (or even before that) you're dead. However, if you build tanky, you do no damage. Is his base damage low or...? And if you miss that combo, you have to wait 7-8 seconds early game to have any sizeable damage output. If you don't kill someone with that combo, you're a sitting duck until it's up again.

The only option left is a utility tank. Do you just build him tanky, knock up some people, and hold them down for other people to do the damage? Someone please clarify, from what people say he's quite strong but I've yet to see it.

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Emperor Cynric1 votes

don't play him much but Ive seen 2 builds suicide tank and pure damage jarvan ghost blade/hydra/deadmans/IE etc. his damage is retarted also lol

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

Max your flag since it's super easy to hit with it and it gives bonuses to skirmishes and teamfights. Build raw ad early,or mixed,Rush black leaver,then titanic hydra,then cinderhulk. E Q Then R on a carry,profit. J4 is braindead easy to play

NahDogSolRahn1 votes

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Max your flag since it's super easy to hit with it and it gives bonuses to skirmishes and teamfights. Build raw ad early,or mixed,Rush black leaver,then titanic hydra,then cinderhulk. E Q Then R on a carry,profit. J4 is braindead easy to play

You miss the finer parts of Jarvin, he is domenent in lane and can out dual riven and fiora. Dragonlance gives armor pen and is a great poke tool, but knowing when to use it is the problem. the combo is Q-first AA against champ( the armor pen+Marsal Cadence does more damage then people think) second AA then back off( thus forcing them to fight to trade or farm, one way or another, they will lose)-once Dragonlance is up again and you aren't pushed into their tower, Flag'n'Drag on them, empowered AA then slow with shield, fight if they stay/farm if they don't. this is much better then riven who is QQQRtiamatR, or Fiora with her true damage. you also need to know exactly when is the best time to ult, too soon or too late and you will not get your target or you will keep your team from getting there to help. You also never max flag first, the cooldown is long and you don't get much from it compaired to Dragonlance.

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

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You miss the finer parts of Jarvin, he is domenent in lane and can out dual riven and fiora. Dragonlance gives armor pen and is a great poke tool, but knowing when to use it is the problem. the combo is Q-first AA against champ( the armor pen+Marsal Cadence does more damage then people think) second AA then back off( thus forcing them to fight to trade or farm, one way or another, they will lose)-once Dragonlance is up again and you aren't pushed into their tower, Flag'n'Drag on them, empowered AA then slow with shield, fight if they stay/farm if they don't. this is much better then riven who is QQQRtiamatR, or Fiora with her true damage. you also need to know exactly when is the best time to ult, too soon or too late and you will not get your target or you will keep your team from getting there to help. You also never max flag first, the cooldown is long and you don't get much from it compaired to Dragonlance.

I talked about jungle j4....

NahDogSolRahn1 votes

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I talked about jungle j4....

Jungle J4 is in a weird place because of the preseason, so, im talking about lane j4 because its the stronger of the two at the momnet.

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

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Jungle J4 is in a weird place because of the preseason, so, im talking about lane j4 because its the stronger of the two at the momnet.

Hell no,j4 is one of the best kinglets out there

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