The things I hate about ganking Bot

trash sion·Jan 16, 2016·1 votes·466 views

People always complain that junglers don't gank bot often enough, but there's a reason for it.

First of all, if we're on blue side, There is absolutely no way I can gank without the enemy duo having our tower completely up their ass. There is no entry path besides the river, and that's warded nearly all the time so they have to be outrageously overextended.

"But why don't you just go into the lane bush?"

You do realize they have two people in the lane... right? And one of them has a sightstone. They have to be putting those wards somewhere... If we have a Leona, Blitz, Braum, Thresh, Nautilus.... what am I saying that bush is always warded.

Do I even need to talk about bot lane focusing the 0/8 Sona while the 6/0 Draven is cleaving their faces?

In conclusion, no.

8 Comments

HamerDrunkJan 16, 20161 votes

in my oppinion the best lane to gank depends on jungler game type and momentum etc etc but the lane i like to gank most is mid lane cause when they are rolling they can help with roaming and mid tower is most important but pressure on bot lane is good for dragon wich is also very important and some junglers lvl 6 are really good at ganking bot lane like amumu with ult or rengar who can go stealth

but the worst thing is at min 1.45 bot lane pings for ganks if you're that far behind at min 1.45 that you need a gank to get back in lane you failed same thing with a laner diyng at min 2 and then blaming on jungler

Aeolian MelodiesJan 17, 20161 votes

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but the worst thing is at min 1.45 bot lane pings for ganks if you're that far behind at min 1.45 that you need a gank to get back in lane you failed same thing with a laner diyng at min 2 and then blaming on jungler

They might not be "behind" and needing to "get back" they might have an opportunity.

Aeolian MelodiesJan 16, 20161 votes

Bot is often the lane with most dmg and/or CC to support a gank because you have 2 people
Double kill bot is free drag
SS is built later these days than in S4 and S5, however I'll give you that bot lane has 2 people to ward with trinket

Best Valor NAJan 17, 20161 votes

But if the gank goes bad and their adc gets a triple kill, the games kinda fk'ed... It's a lot more risky.

Summonerrr 1Jan 17, 20161 votes

It's so damn annoying when people blame the jungler (sometimes me, more often now that there is a "fill" main option for us actual fill mains in this new champion select) for losing their lane and not ganking a lane enough when they give up 4 kills in the first ten minutes and then expect me to steal drag twice and turn their lane around.

Aeolian MelodiesJan 17, 20161 votes

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It's so damn annoying when people blame the jungler (sometimes me, more often now that there is a "fill" main option for us actual fill mains in this new champion select) for losing their lane and not ganking a lane enough when they give up 4 kills in the first ten minutes and then expect me to steal drag twice and turn their lane around.

And it's annoying to see your jungler try to go through that one path that you told them was warded then they complain that "you gave it away" or whatever BS.

JUST TAKE ANY OTHER PATHS MAN!

Summonerrr 1Jan 18, 20161 votes

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And it's annoying to see your jungler try to go through that one path that you told them was warded then they complain that "you gave it away" or whatever BS.

JUST TAKE ANY OTHER PATHS MAN!

Always great when I know the enemy jungler is completely static in his clear paths. Makes ganking LeeSin with Amumu a snap.

Chicken and Dog steals for DAYS

TormythJan 17, 20161 votes

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People always complain that junglers don't gank bot often enough, but there's a reason for it.

First of all, if we're on blue side, There is absolutely no way I can gank without the enemy duo having our tower completely up their ass. There is no entry path besides the river, and that's warded nearly all the time so they have to be outrageously overextended.

"But why don't you just go into the lane bush?"

You do realize they have two people in the lane... right? And one of them has a sightstone. They have to be putting those wards somewhere... If we have a Leona, Blitz, Braum, Thresh, Nautilus.... what am I saying that bush is always warded.

Do I even need to talk about bot lane focusing the 0/8 Sona while the 6/0 Draven is cleaving their faces?

In conclusion, no.

i find sweeping lens to disable wards for ganks, clear dragon/river quite effective, also depends on the jungler champion used typically if your only option to gank is run up to melee range, ie Udyr, skarner or shyvana to some extent as well. then it's usually best to counter jungle mostly until you can find an optimal gank opportunity because they have plenty of time to react unless they are tunnel visioning, which is where sweeper comes in. item 3341