https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae50NP30chc
it is but one facet and "winning your lane" in itself isn't always a great thing for every champ anyways
This thread is for all the "I always win my lane its all my team's fault" people
SanKakU12 votesThis just in: League of Legends scientists reveal evidence supporting the theory that team games require teamwork!
Ariel the Cruel5 votes
NONSENSE!
Nagoh Shan1 votes
Kled's military law #27:
"Teamwork is essential, Skarl, gives you more people to shoot at!"
Requiemsfire10 votesWell yeah, you can earn a significant gold lead in lane but it's more about how you apply that gold lead as opposed to how much of a lead you have.
Ariel the Cruel7 votesWinning lane doesn't win games. Trashing lane and chain-ganking top while your jungle camps bot however, goes a long ways. ;p
Catastrop1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ariel the Cruel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rcY0zkjP,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-10-10T22:26:47.372+0000)
Winning lane doesn't win games. Trashing lane and chain-ganking top while your jungle camps bot however, goes a long ways. ;p
I can't upvote this enough.
IPromiseTomorrow5 votes
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CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes
Struggles to carry, in fact some considered it a won game if darius stole most of their kills
Just because you won your lane as fizz doesn't mean you're good at the game, additionally just to avoid the obvious misguided response, assuming you would give one, the strategy with fizz wasn't to win his lane, he just needed to get where he needed to be fast and go gank lanes and rush to end the game faster than the slower paced team strategies could handle. He usually didn't actually "win" the lane and even when he did it wasn't because of a won lane that he was strong since he could lose lane and do the same thing, often because he was building to win instead of cheese his opponent.
I don't get it
Riven winning lane tends to not actually be that abnormal or meaningful as she will just fall off later
same as riven only he has a better chance of carrying depending on the enemy team comp.
Yasuo gets hosed regardless of how he does in lane by some comps though. If you always build to specifically win lane as yasuo you will put yourself at a disadvantage I imagine since he is so easy to kill when you are not intentionally building to survive and deal enough damage
IPromiseTomorrow2 votesYea I am joking. I wanted to put these champs up here since the people who play them are all about. Plays, Outplays, Mechanics, First blood, 1v5 under turret. Then.... Oh no, f*** I lost the game because my team wasn't doing well after I only killed the midlaner 20 times!
Salt pores out from mouth
That's the joke really lel
CerealBoxOfDoom2 votesI've noticed that usually if you are killing the same champ 5 times during laning that's a bad sign that you may be misusing your time unless the other guy is a complete idiot
IPromiseTomorrow1 votesThat's what I learned after playing Yasuo, Zed, Azir. Sooo many times. I have been consistent in lane due to how much I stressed out about it in the past.
I get what your post is, I added this comedic post for some fun. :^)
CookyPrince3 votesRiven doesn't really fall off though, she still holds some presence especially in team fights
Zerenza1 votesYasuo falls off? Dafuq? He's a late game hyper carry with a strong laning phase. I honestly don't think your a laner, you obviously don't know what yasuo is.
(PSA: to the yasuo mains who will downvote this, didn't say he's OP, just said that he's a hyper carry.)
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesyasuo isn't game hypercarry
a lot of games just don't reach lategame is all so a lot of champs seem to not fall off.
However he's one of those cases where something specific will need to shut him down lategame or you will need a strong close out strategy. Which some players aren't coordinated, knowledgeable, or mechanically talented enough for
Paladin 0f Life4 votesInitially though its a good start but teamfighting wins games. Therefore, if you have more gold and more farm and thus more dmg and ability to tank than you should technically win
CerealBoxOfDoom6 votesadvantage != skill
having an advantage in early to mid fights in 100% of your matches isn't necessarily a sign of your skill.
In fact I've found that I can actually win lane by hurting my own gameplay against not very good midlaners. I've also found that a lot of times the build and setup that makes a champ good at winning lane wont necessarily win teamfights or get objectives... you'll be a great duelist but what if they don't want to duel you and can win without doing this.
But you will have more gold and levels yes
bony whimsark1 votesbasically you can take ignite top or take teleport top.
1 800 Top Lane2 votesFirst off, this is NOT a warning or punishment to your Boards account. Your discussion has been removed due to being posted in the wrong sub-section. We know you're passionate and we want to make sure that you have these conversations in the correct avenues!
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesDoes my laning experience and its relation to my performance have nothing to do with gameplay?
1 800 Top Lane1 votesWas a joke bud. If you couldn't taste the sarcasm..
ItsOrval2 votesWhat does the video have to do with the title btw?
CerealBoxOfDoom3 votesits a video of bronze players occasionally winning against a diamond player in 1v1s
This is a sortof demonstration of the fact that there is more to the game than winning lane. Like a lot more, this diamond player makes so many mistakes and yet he is so far ahead of these people.
Its watching a good chess player play against a bad player with perfect memory if you've ever experienced something like that. They memorize some part of a collection of textbook stuff but never understand what comes beyond this nor do they ever seem to understand the concept of retrospect analysis unless they've taken the time to memorize as opposed to learn.
These people who say "oh but I always win lane so it must be everyone else" are potentially doing something they could get away with at any rank and still lose. The reason is because your laning "victory" does not necessarily mean you had a better performance.
ItsOrval1 votesAh ok, that makes sense.
Jungle Lux God1 votesWhat it does reflect is your skill in the laning phase. That doesn't win games by itself, but being good at getting ahead in the laning phase helps you out when you teamfight later on. However, if your teamfighting is bad then your laning strengths won't translate into a big advantage, and the gold advantage you got from laning will just even out your teamfighting deficiencies.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesnot necessarily that either. Just because you're 30 cs and 1 kill ahead of irelia or akali isn't going to mean a whole lot if you did it by building a ton of damage on a champ that will need to be tanky later for example. What it reflects is your capacity to "win lane" not necessarily your actual skill in lane. If i'm building to win and I'm building MR against tryndamere and keeping up I will probably still lose lane even though I'll he ahead in development. Similar to a gambit in chess
Jungle Lux God1 votesThat's a pretty good point.
Only Play Darius1 votesNot all champions can make a smooth transition out of lane into teamfights though, Wukong is a bad example as he is known for making impactful plays in teamfights despite usually doing poorly in lane.
CerealBoxOfDoom4 voteswukong is a good example BECAUSE of that actually.
Remember this thread is for that guy who says "I always win lane so it must be everyone elses fault"
ItsOrval1 votesHow to rank up
Bronze Elo: Get Fed, GGEZ Silver Elo: Suicide bomb enemy towers getting as many objectives as you can, you will win 9/10 due to all the territory control you have. Gold Elo: Farm cs as much as possible. Platinum Elo: Tilt your enemy laner. Diamond Elo: Farm cs, trade effectively, teamwork. Masters/Challenger Elo: Focus on team gold. Whoever has the most gold on the team usually wins.
This is my opinion anyways.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesIn Silver, I found the best option is to grab a champion with waveclear and stall indefinitely. Team would pretty much constantly group around a random objective, so the ability to stall and poke down the opponent before a fight begins can be invaluable.
I mostly played Ziggs and Varus while I was in Silver last season due to this.
VoidStaresBack1 votesI mean, you'd think this would just be common sense, but on these forums... Some people just don't get the memo.
+1
Potato Doc1 votesThere have been so many games that I have lost lane hard, only to look for TP plays and roams and even though my opponent had a 3 kill advantage on me (once at 9 mins), I still won those games because I had a much better map presence
Daem0n931 votesI created a website surrounding this idea, it uses Riot API and some select stats to determine who would be a winner of a 1v1 between a friend and you!
Check it out good people, lol1v1mebro
FioraWillCarry2 votesI created a website surrounding this idea, it uses Riot API and some select stats to determine who would be a winner of a 1v1 between a friend and you!
Check it out good people, lol1v1mebro
You created that ? What development tools did you use ?
Daem0n931 votesI used Java EE servlets running on an Apache Tomcat web container. I used a boot strap template + jsp for the front end!
Let me know if you have any more questions! :)
FioraWillCarry1 votesI used Java EE servlets running on an Apache Tomcat web container. I used a boot strap template + jsp for the front end!
Let me know if you have any more questions! :)
Ah. I take it you're not a Windows developer then. Linux maybe ?
Daem0n931 votesRight on the money, I am a linux developer. However, Java is not OS specific and Tomcat has distros on both linux and windows. My code has no dependencies to linux!
You can get a free (restricted) amazon AWS instance from openshift by redhat which is what I used for free hosting. In total it only cost me one dollar USD, and that was for the domain name lol
Papa Slothy1 voteslaning success shows some skill but it's more about how you impact other lanes and the game as a whole using that lead
Zerenza1 votesSo true, i'm a really good laner so i often win my lane(i also play good lane bully champs to add to this) and so often i'm pretty fed but i can't end out a game or "Carry" simply because i'm bad at the team fighting stage and late game stage.
Lady Hammerlock1 votesYou can honestly very easily see this with bad/good Leblanc players
bad LB's can crush lane all they fucking want but if they can't play team fights right that 11/0 score is pointless
Good LB's can go even and play team fights and dominate by basically being near untouchable and annoying
rescued1 votesThis is true. I am not a mid or top main, but when I do play those roles I suck at laning phase, not going to lie. but the second laning phase ends and we start teamfighting is where I show my true colours.
[slayer-jinx-wink]
EndlessSorcerer1 votesLikewise.
I generally just choose a champion with safe waveclear (i.e. Lux, Ziggs, Varus) and farm until teamfights start up.
If I happen to find a good opportunity to roam or manage to get a kill during laning phase, that's just a bonus.
