Rumble has the worst winrate at top lane now

FortisDominus·Mar 28, 2016·4 votes·557 views

He is averaging a 41% winrate at top lane (which means he has the lowest winrate at top lane right now).

out of the 56 top laners on champion.gg, he is ranked last

Can rumble get some buffs please?

14 Comments

lilpokflufMar 28, 20163 votes

Someone's gotta be the worst

FortisDominusMar 28, 20162 votes

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Someone's gotta be the worst

lol

RisenDarkKnightMar 28, 20161 votes

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Someone's gotta be the worst

Ok, but everyone can be between 47% and 53% rather than having some champs at 41%. There has been plenty of times in league history where almost every champ was between those 2 thresholds. Every since the Juggernaut patch, there has been a greater variance of winrates between the worst and the best champs.

Dominick DestineMar 28, 20161 votes

He's gotten a series of buffs in the last patches.

But yeah, they gutted him so bad when they changed his Q a couple of season ago it was gg.

FortisDominusMar 28, 20161 votes

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He's gotten a series of buffs in the last patches.

But yeah, they gutted him so bad when they changed his Q a couple of season ago it was gg.

what buff? his harpoon? i think his winrate at top lane actually went down in the top lane after that "buff"

Dominick DestineMar 28, 20161 votes

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what buff? his harpoon?

They increased the range of his Flamespitter by 50. That is an enormous buff.... the problem is; Flamespitter's damage was utterly gutted quite awhile ago, so was The Equalizer.

In my opinion, what Rumble really needs, and this is a very radical notion so bare with me; is a drastic boost to his base AD. Rumble is a character that is intended to be a semi-hybrid of melee caster and auto-attacking fighter (Overheat).

The problem is, his damage is almost entirely magical and his base AD is relatively low to compensate. This means his last hitting is shit , his attack animation is shit and he is hard-countered by MR, more so than almost any other AP top.

To add to all of that; MR was buffed across the board and AP was nerfed across the board. I like Rumble but he is utter garbage at this point.

He needs another real buff.

Irelia BotMar 28, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rbRP1G2q,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-28T21:16:47.039+0000)

They increased the range of his Flamespitter by 50. That is an enormous buff.... the problem is; Flamespitter's damage was utterly gutted quite awhile ago, so was The Equalizer.

In my opinion, what Rumble really needs, and this is a very radical notion so bare with me; is a drastic boost to his base AD. Rumble is a character that is intended to be a semi-hybrid of melee caster and auto-attacking fighter (Overheat).

The problem is, his damage is almost entirely magical and his base AD is relatively low to compensate. This means his last hitting is shit , his attack animation is shit and he is hard-countered by MR, more so than almost any other AP top.

To add to all of that; MR was buffed across the board and AP was nerfed across the board. I like Rumble but he is utter garbage at this point.

He needs another real buff.

Are you talking about that bug where his flamespitter was doing something like 3 times the damage it should have been doing?

Dominick DestineMar 28, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Irelia Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rbRP1G2q,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-28T21:18:20.901+0000)

Are you talking about that bug where his flamespitter was doing something like 3 times the damage it should have been doing?

No, that was a rare glitch.

I am talking about a patch quite awhile ago where Flamespitter's calculated damage determined was shown "Per second" which added up to like 360... they changed it to total while reducing it to "300", that was a significant nerf.

It was also nerfed at a similar time because it became calculated in brief(er) bursts rather than lengthier period meaning if you did a quite swipe of flamespitter, you would tick for more rather than less. Bottom line; They gutted Rumble's main source of damage.

Then they gutted The Equalizer.

Then they buffed AD.

Then they buffed MR.

Then they nerfed AP.

Is it a surprise Rumble win rate has been even been as low on occasions as 36% and is currently sitting at 41% IMMEDIATELY AFTER GETTING MASSIVELY BUFFED? (A 50 point range increase on flamespitter is enormous btw, harpoon "buff" was a joke) https://www.champion.gg/champion/Rumble/Top

FortisDominusMar 28, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rbRP1G2q,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-28T21:16:47.039+0000)

They increased the range of his Flamespitter by 50. That is an enormous buff.... the problem is; Flamespitter's damage was utterly gutted quite awhile ago, so was The Equalizer.

In my opinion, what Rumble really needs, and this is a very radical notion so bare with me; is a drastic boost to his base AD. Rumble is a character that is intended to be a semi-hybrid of melee caster and auto-attacking fighter (Overheat).

The problem is, his damage is almost entirely magical and his base AD is relatively low to compensate. This means his last hitting is shit , his attack animation is shit and he is hard-countered by MR, more so than almost any other AP top.

To add to all of that; MR was buffed across the board and AP was nerfed across the board. I like Rumble but he is utter garbage at this point.

He needs another real buff.

That buff just didnt do as much as i hoped it would, when i saw it i thought it was a great idea, but it just was not enough. But yea, rumble sucks dick right now, and no one will say otherwise just because they hate him

Dominick DestineMar 28, 20161 votes

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That buff just didnt do as much as i hoped it would

I tend to agree.

I (wrongly) thought it would completely change him because , release Leb was so UNBELIEVABLY dominant (+80% win rate ish) simply because her 'radius of threat' was SLIGHTLY higher than it is now. I thought "Well, if Rumble's core damage range is slightly increased, that should translate to a huge buff!" but no, it barely changed him at all (38% ish win rate to 41% ish win rate lol).

But yea, rumble sucks dick right now, and no one will say otherwise just because they hate him

Sadly, you are correct.

KoggyStyleMar 28, 20161 votes

even worse than the odd ww top?

FortisDominusMar 28, 20161 votes

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even worse than the odd ww top?

yes

Athenes LuluMar 28, 20161 votes

That's why take him to the jungle. His waveclear is insane.

FortisDominusMar 28, 20161 votes

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That's why take him to the jungle. His waveclear is insane.

Sorry, i will never play rumble in the jungle, its boring as shit