Also I think it's getting worse and worse because nobody wants to put support secondary because it's all they'll get (me being a prime example)
Also I think it's getting worse and worse because nobody wants to put support secondary because it's all they'll get (me being a prime example)
This is also me. Switched from jungle/support (95% jungle and 5% support role rate last season) to jungle/mid this season because I didn't want to get support 90% of the time.
It has now been so long since I've played support that I don't even remember how. Even if they fix dynamic queue so it'll only give me support 10% of the time, I'll still queue as jungle/mid rather than re-learn the role.
Besides, I'm getting pretty good at Eve mid.
Riot permanently killed a potential support player. I will never play it again.
Also I think it's getting worse and worse because nobody wants to put support secondary because it's all they'll get (me being a prime example)
Me too, I made the full switch 2 days ago. Kinda sad that I have to shove it away as my default combo since then I'll never play my best role, but I'm still holding out hope that it gets better.
Don't quote me on that but I think going Fill - Support gives you support less often than plain old Fill.
considering using fill blocks out the secondary choice, I am going to say you are wrong.
I never said the system made sense.
What we are saying is that you are a liar. Choosing Fill as primary doesn't let you make a secondary choice.
In which case giving me the benefit of the doubt and presuming I meant Support - Fill (which I did) would have been the gentleman's manoeuvre .
One does not simply make a mistake on the LoL boards without being bombarded by assholes.
I laughed way to hard at this.

maybe he got the order wrong and meant to say support-fill
I'd love to queue support secondary, if it didn't mean that I'd ALWAYS GET SUPPORT.
It's ridiculous the shit I experience as a support main sometimes.
Yesterday I supported a Kog as Leona. We're doing okay in lane against a Thresh and Sivir. We're pushed up a little so I go to ward, Kog doesn't watch the map and gets jumped (because he didn't back off). I instantly turn back around and flash+q Sivir and block a Thresh hook so Kog can run. I run but still ultimately die at my tower, while Kog gets away with a sliver of health
Kog: Uh, next time tell me when you're gonna leave
Me: You could watch the map and see I'm going to ward, you're welcome by the way.
Kog: sigh, that's what the last trash support said, I guess I'm just gonna mute you.
I mean what the actual fuck?
And there's another reason (and it's kind of a big one). Whenever I play support and my lane gets ahead, the lane instantly becomes a 3v2 because the enemy mid/jungle come bot every 5 seconds. But when I play support and the enemy gets an advantage, I practically have to beg for any help at all, even if the enemy is dry humping our turret. It's very very aggravating sometimes...
Only a 3v2? I get the full team on my ass as soon as we win lane. grumble grumble stupid ![]()
Win lane?
I have 5 enemies bot after 2 minutes pass from Leashing. :/
Kog: Uh, next time tell me when you're gonna leave
God, I hate ADC's who act like they own you.
He probably didn't even "let" you roam to other lanes either (although with Koggy... but if it were Graves or something, the sentiment would make more sense).
It's an issue when playing Support: ADCs believe that, because you're bot with them, you're responsible only towards them.
Well, no, I'm not. And besides, if I know the enemy has an Evelynn, you can be damn well sure I'm going to put my wards some place they matter. You'll just have to resist your suicidal urges while I'm off to ward.
I expected this when i had to Fill adc, but i would let the team know that i was a fill ADC not a main. Asking a jungle main to play smart and CS is a lot.....
I had a Twitch the other day complain about "not supporting me" after 15 minutes. Laneing phase was done, I let him alone bot lane to freeze farm and soak exp/gold. I had to explain to him I am the team's support, not just his.
I am surprised the twitch didn't roam. He has pretty good ambushes, literally.
Meanwhile, I put support primary and regularly don't get it.
chose support as primary role and fill as secondary some how get mid. even better when the guy who got support wants mid
Sadly most ADC mains do act like this

I've been playing a lot of Support lately and I agree- ADCs .. no, most of the comps (unless they're chill to begin with or are your friends from the start) treat you like trash. Unless you're 0 0 and 40+ on assists, a simple KS or CS can tilt people so hard or have em rage.
I remember when I went
support and I was killing a siege minion at our tower in order to heal my ADC via through
and suddenly I see this chat post from my ADC saying, "Leona don't attack the minions, let me last hit them" but when I tried to explain my Relic Shield heals and grants the gold anyways whenever I slay a minion, he says "Less whining and more aggressive plays." .......... Let's just say I muted him after and just played.
If you have a Support on your team, please thank them. They're the reason either your ADC is fed, you guys have map vision most of the time, or ya'll get kills / get saved in team fights. Supports are friends, not tools.
ADCs always been most toxic class, but its never was worse than that. Any game i play support this season would be extremly unfun if i wasnt playing Bard. So, if he flames me, Im like "Time to get that baron pit chime".
Is Riven an adc?
They build AD and they think they can carry. Soooooooo.......
Another reason that no one wants to play support right now is because the amount of attention it gets from everyone on the map. Junglers love to go bot lane since it is a potential double kill, and they can even use the brush for ultimate lane gank cheese. Not to mention the fact that the enemy can potentially take 2 teleports and just jump on you any time you even try to fight the enemy, which can be a nightmare when youre in one of the games where both of your laners take ignite and arent even winning lane or forcing them to burn tps.
Not to mention the amount of roaming mids like
that are all meta right now.
I hate when the enemy team has 2 teleports and we have 0. Yup, we lose our lane randomly because you gotta run ignite so you can maybe sneak out a kill or two. Sorry your lane opponent is 6-2 due to teleport roaming on us because they know you can't follow.
but the only time a top or mid laner will get kills by TP bot is if the enemy bot lane is playing overly aggressive or they play agressive and there's wards behind them. Both of which are the bot laner's fault.
I get that some match-ups you got to play really agressive. Like a Cait+Soraka/Janna vs a Vayne+Leona for example. But in that case, do yourself a favor and make sure the enemy doesn't have TP wards in your bushes. And "overly aggressive" = you chase for kills beyond the minions line. Meaning that the enemy minions are now behind you and the mid/top laner can TP there.
So, its possible to avoid double tp bot even if the enemy team is running that. I usually run TP on both both and mid. But if I see you are about to get killed for over extending by a tp. I will most likely NOT TP bot to fight into a 1v3 (or more).
I've gotten 4 or 5-man dove while under turret thanks to teleports like that. Mid roams top to get attention, they both tp bot, and smash down outer and inner turrets since our team can't respond. I'm aware being overly aggressive is asking for teleport responses, but that's not always how it happens. I usually manage to get either myself or my ADC out when a single teleport happens while we're pushing towards outer turret, but suddenly getting 4 or 5 manned when you're already under turret is frustrating knowing that you have to conecede one or both turrets, and most likely Dragon.
The worst part about supporting is dealing with a lane partner that doesn't understand the support role and/or champion.
When I go ward or do any number of things that aren't a hard-ass engage, they misread my intentions and end up killing themselves.
I main support.
Pretty much quit, it's not fun anymore.
Why?
Get your lane ahead early, die to the (what else) fed Zed midgame, lose the game to deathtimers lategame.
Your job as support is to ward, get your AD ahead and peel for the carries. This season, especially with rageblade/duskblade in the game, it's less about skill and decision making but rather about which team scales better into the midgame.
You feel useless as support in this season.
because supports seem to be worthless in this meta if you have no dmg, youre useless
i disagree... Peel supports like janna and lulu are really strong this patch because ADC's are really strong this patch (and the past few patches)
LuLu is only a strong "support" when she is taken into the mid lane and purchases a bunch of AP.
Trying to take her into a duo role with a limited income and actual support items and she doesn't even compare to other supports.
lulu is strong even without building a lot of ap if you're playing her correctly.
lulu is strong even without building a lot of ap if you're playing her correctly.
#utility
There's a reason Kog'Maw bans usually include a lulu ban
What
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You
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Say
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Us
Being
Useless
Mate?

Oh I left her out because she deals a crap ton of damage. Most people use her as a Q nuke bot lol. Don't get me wrong, her ult and items are useful but she's mostly a poke monster.
I thought it was because she was mute.
Yet Bard is allowed to speak.
She's useful!!!
######In mid lane
I still consider myself a support main but I avoid playing it most of the time now because of one SIMPLE TINY thing: Wave management.
Explanation: At a random point in the game around 15-20 minutes in, a strange phenomenon that always occurs. The ADC and the Top Laner will always leave their lane no matter what state it is in to join fights in mid or irrational fights in the jungle.
When this happens I want to start crying because in most cases, the minions are pushing against us and if the wave is left unintended, your turrets are going down. Your only hope to stay in the game longer is to zzrot portal one of the lanes then go to the other lane and protect the turret with no wave clear abilities while your team accuses you of "farming". It is like people have no understanding how much map control they are losing when just one turret goes down.
Solution for the non-supports: If you are an ADC or a Top Laner and there are minion waves about to take down your turret, I don't care what the team says. Don't go with your team and fight a completely random fight that accomplishes nothing. Do something meaningful and protect your turrets. The farm you get from protecting your turrets will be a safe and added bonus.
ADC's: Your job is to stay bot if the enemy wave is pushing too close to the turret. The support's job is to roam where ever help is needed once the support has properly warded for you so you know if you are in danger or not. If the enemy team groups up 5 mid 12 minutes in, then you don't need 5 people to protect mid. On top of that, the support will usually have more tools to defend vs an EARLY siege than an ADC will. Stay bot until the wave is pushing in your favor if you want to join mid OR just keep pushing until you take the free turrets.
Top Laners: Same as ADC's except you should have some support from the jungler and you should partially be your own support. Buy pinks and use your trinkets as you start pushing the waves further into the enemy's side of the map. If you want to play TDM style then rush a zz'rot, set it down next to your turret, and join the team right after.
Summary: If the side lanes do their job, you will have forced the support into being more likely to do their own job more efficiently. For the newbies who complain about supports "farming"................ DON'T LET THEM. You go back to your lane, defend the turret, and take your farm back. This will force the support to leave you alone. If all the enemy knows how to do is go 5 mid, they will be clueless on how to respond to their side lanes being taken. Eventually they will send 5 top or 5 bot. That is the rest of the team's time to push mid.
As I support main this means I have very short queue times.
nobody wants to sit by and be some assholes bitch the entire game. Fk that. i'd rather play a role that isn't the team punching bag.