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DeynaTaggerung107 votes

Also I think it's getting worse and worse because nobody wants to put support secondary because it's all they'll get (me being a prime example)

Jesus is Savior6 votes

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Also I think it's getting worse and worse because nobody wants to put support secondary because it's all they'll get (me being a prime example)

This is also me. Switched from jungle/support (95% jungle and 5% support role rate last season) to jungle/mid this season because I didn't want to get support 90% of the time.

It has now been so long since I've played support that I don't even remember how. Even if they fix dynamic queue so it'll only give me support 10% of the time, I'll still queue as jungle/mid rather than re-learn the role.

Besides, I'm getting pretty good at Eve mid.

Riot permanently killed a potential support player. I will never play it again.

allthemuslims6 votes

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Also I think it's getting worse and worse because nobody wants to put support secondary because it's all they'll get (me being a prime example)

Me too, I made the full switch 2 days ago. Kinda sad that I have to shove it away as my default combo since then I'll never play my best role, but I'm still holding out hope that it gets better.

Dengeden8 votes

Don't quote me on that but I think going Fill - Support gives you support less often than plain old Fill.

Angry Monster35 votes

considering using fill blocks out the secondary choice, I am going to say you are wrong.

Dengeden21 votes

I never said the system made sense.

Forn ala creme10 votes

What we are saying is that you are a liar. Choosing Fill as primary doesn't let you make a secondary choice.

Dengeden13 votes

In which case giving me the benefit of the doubt and presuming I meant Support - Fill (which I did) would have been the gentleman's manoeuvre .

It Hertz When IP48 votes

One does not simply make a mistake on the LoL boards without being bombarded by assholes.

PunisherJBY15 votes

I laughed way to hard at this.

GhostOfShrimpmas10 votes

Rammus

crippler383 votes

maybe he got the order wrong and meant to say support-fill

Thumpin3 votes

I'd love to queue support secondary, if it didn't mean that I'd ALWAYS GET SUPPORT.

ADepressedLeona58 votes

It's ridiculous the shit I experience as a support main sometimes.

Yesterday I supported a Kog as Leona. We're doing okay in lane against a Thresh and Sivir. We're pushed up a little so I go to ward, Kog doesn't watch the map and gets jumped (because he didn't back off). I instantly turn back around and flash+q Sivir and block a Thresh hook so Kog can run. I run but still ultimately die at my tower, while Kog gets away with a sliver of health

Kog: Uh, next time tell me when you're gonna leave

Me: You could watch the map and see I'm going to ward, you're welcome by the way.

Kog: sigh, that's what the last trash support said, I guess I'm just gonna mute you.

I mean what the actual fuck?

And there's another reason (and it's kind of a big one). Whenever I play support and my lane gets ahead, the lane instantly becomes a 3v2 because the enemy mid/jungle come bot every 5 seconds. But when I play support and the enemy gets an advantage, I practically have to beg for any help at all, even if the enemy is dry humping our turret. It's very very aggravating sometimes...

CoffeeDave28 votes

Only a 3v2? I get the full team on my ass as soon as we win lane. grumble grumble stupid summoner 12

10Tickler9 votes

Win lane?

I have 5 enemies bot after 2 minutes pass from Leashing. :/

IcyPepper17 votes

Kog: Uh, next time tell me when you're gonna leave

God, I hate ADC's who act like they own you.

He probably didn't even "let" you roam to other lanes either (although with Koggy... but if it were Graves or something, the sentiment would make more sense).

Dessem12 votes

It's an issue when playing Support: ADCs believe that, because you're bot with them, you're responsible only towards them.

Well, no, I'm not. And besides, if I know the enemy has an Evelynn, you can be damn well sure I'm going to put my wards some place they matter. You'll just have to resist your suicidal urges while I'm off to ward.

Angry Monster4 votes

I expected this when i had to Fill adc, but i would let the team know that i was a fill ADC not a main. Asking a jungle main to play smart and CS is a lot.....

DarkRitual6 votes

I had a Twitch the other day complain about "not supporting me" after 15 minutes. Laneing phase was done, I let him alone bot lane to freeze farm and soak exp/gold. I had to explain to him I am the team's support, not just his.

Mhihnj6 votes

I am surprised the twitch didn't roam. He has pretty good ambushes, literally.

Drackolus13 votes

Meanwhile, I put support primary and regularly don't get it.

royalpaste3 votes

chose support as primary role and fill as secondary some how get mid. even better when the guy who got support wants mid

Only Play Darius10 votes

Sadly most ADC mains do act like this Vayne Ezreal Kalista

CarameI Frappe8 votes

I've been playing a lot of Support lately and I agree- ADCs .. no, most of the comps (unless they're chill to begin with or are your friends from the start) treat you like trash. Unless you're 0 0 and 40+ on assists, a simple KS or CS can tilt people so hard or have em rage.

I remember when I went Leona support and I was killing a siege minion at our tower in order to heal my ADC via through item 3302 and suddenly I see this chat post from my ADC saying, "Leona don't attack the minions, let me last hit them" but when I tried to explain my Relic Shield heals and grants the gold anyways whenever I slay a minion, he says "Less whining and more aggressive plays." .......... Let's just say I muted him after and just played.

If you have a Support on your team, please thank them. They're the reason either your ADC is fed, you guys have map vision most of the time, or ya'll get kills / get saved in team fights. Supports are friends, not tools.

DemoGuide8 votes

ADCs always been most toxic class, but its never was worse than that. Any game i play support this season would be extremly unfun if i wasnt playing Bard. So, if he flames me, Im like "Time to get that baron pit chime".

Serika Zero1 votes

Is Riven an adc?

WhatDidYouSee7 votes

They build AD and they think they can carry. Soooooooo.......

WadeWilson13377 votes

Another reason that no one wants to play support right now is because the amount of attention it gets from everyone on the map. Junglers love to go bot lane since it is a potential double kill, and they can even use the brush for ultimate lane gank cheese. Not to mention the fact that the enemy can potentially take 2 teleports and just jump on you any time you even try to fight the enemy, which can be a nightmare when youre in one of the games where both of your laners take ignite and arent even winning lane or forcing them to burn tps.

Not to mention the amount of roaming mids like Ahri Talon Zed that are all meta right now.

DarkRitual3 votes

I hate when the enemy team has 2 teleports and we have 0. Yup, we lose our lane randomly because you gotta run ignite so you can maybe sneak out a kill or two. Sorry your lane opponent is 6-2 due to teleport roaming on us because they know you can't follow.

Serika Zero4 votes

but the only time a top or mid laner will get kills by TP bot is if the enemy bot lane is playing overly aggressive or they play agressive and there's wards behind them. Both of which are the bot laner's fault.

I get that some match-ups you got to play really agressive. Like a Cait+Soraka/Janna vs a Vayne+Leona for example. But in that case, do yourself a favor and make sure the enemy doesn't have TP wards in your bushes. And "overly aggressive" = you chase for kills beyond the minions line. Meaning that the enemy minions are now behind you and the mid/top laner can TP there.

So, its possible to avoid double tp bot even if the enemy team is running that. I usually run TP on both both and mid. But if I see you are about to get killed for over extending by a tp. I will most likely NOT TP bot to fight into a 1v3 (or more).

DarkRitual4 votes

I've gotten 4 or 5-man dove while under turret thanks to teleports like that. Mid roams top to get attention, they both tp bot, and smash down outer and inner turrets since our team can't respond. I'm aware being overly aggressive is asking for teleport responses, but that's not always how it happens. I usually manage to get either myself or my ADC out when a single teleport happens while we're pushing towards outer turret, but suddenly getting 4 or 5 manned when you're already under turret is frustrating knowing that you have to conecede one or both turrets, and most likely Dragon.

FantasySniper7 votes

The worst part about supporting is dealing with a lane partner that doesn't understand the support role and/or champion.

When I go ward or do any number of things that aren't a hard-ass engage, they misread my intentions and end up killing themselves.

Rismonaught7 votes

I main support.

Pretty much quit, it's not fun anymore.

Huang Po1 votes

Why?

Lauchmelder7 votes

Get your lane ahead early, die to the (what else) fed Zed midgame, lose the game to deathtimers lategame.

Your job as support is to ward, get your AD ahead and peel for the carries. This season, especially with rageblade/duskblade in the game, it's less about skill and decision making but rather about which team scales better into the midgame.

You feel useless as support in this season.

A BoxOf Raisins6 votes

because supports seem to be worthless in this meta if you have no dmg, youre useless

FortisDominus34 votes

i disagree... Peel supports like janna and lulu are really strong this patch because ADC's are really strong this patch (and the past few patches)

YCitizenSnipsY11 votes

LuLu is only a strong "support" when she is taken into the mid lane and purchases a bunch of AP.

Trying to take her into a duo role with a limited income and actual support items and she doesn't even compare to other supports.

Trashlord Kayden8 votes

lulu is strong even without building a lot of ap if you're playing her correctly.

Magnum Mack6 votes

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lulu is strong even without building a lot of ap if you're playing her correctly.

#utility

There's a reason Kog'Maw bans usually include a lulu ban

CarameI Frappe26 votes

Soraka What

Janna Did

Bard You

Lulu Just

Braum Say

Leona About

Nami Us

Morgana Being

Thresh Useless

Zilean Mate?

Only Play Darius19 votes

Sona item 3070 item 3070

Sadly she actually is useless
CarameI Frappe11 votes

Oh I left her out because she deals a crap ton of damage. Most people use her as a Q nuke bot lol. Don't get me wrong, her ult and items are useful but she's mostly a poke monster.

TeCoolMage12 votes

I thought it was because she was mute.

TheFancySkeleton4 votes

Yet Bard is allowed to speak.

TeCoolMage13 votes

She's useful!!!

######In mid lane

Pandemic Punch6 votes

I still consider myself a support main but I avoid playing it most of the time now because of one SIMPLE TINY thing: Wave management.

Explanation: At a random point in the game around 15-20 minutes in, a strange phenomenon that always occurs. The ADC and the Top Laner will always leave their lane no matter what state it is in to join fights in mid or irrational fights in the jungle.

When this happens I want to start crying because in most cases, the minions are pushing against us and if the wave is left unintended, your turrets are going down. Your only hope to stay in the game longer is to zzrot portal one of the lanes then go to the other lane and protect the turret with no wave clear abilities while your team accuses you of "farming". It is like people have no understanding how much map control they are losing when just one turret goes down.

Solution for the non-supports: If you are an ADC or a Top Laner and there are minion waves about to take down your turret, I don't care what the team says. Don't go with your team and fight a completely random fight that accomplishes nothing. Do something meaningful and protect your turrets. The farm you get from protecting your turrets will be a safe and added bonus.

ADC's: Your job is to stay bot if the enemy wave is pushing too close to the turret. The support's job is to roam where ever help is needed once the support has properly warded for you so you know if you are in danger or not. If the enemy team groups up 5 mid 12 minutes in, then you don't need 5 people to protect mid. On top of that, the support will usually have more tools to defend vs an EARLY siege than an ADC will. Stay bot until the wave is pushing in your favor if you want to join mid OR just keep pushing until you take the free turrets.

Top Laners: Same as ADC's except you should have some support from the jungler and you should partially be your own support. Buy pinks and use your trinkets as you start pushing the waves further into the enemy's side of the map. If you want to play TDM style then rush a zz'rot, set it down next to your turret, and join the team right after.

Summary: If the side lanes do their job, you will have forced the support into being more likely to do their own job more efficiently. For the newbies who complain about supports "farming"................ DON'T LET THEM. You go back to your lane, defend the turret, and take your farm back. This will force the support to leave you alone. If all the enemy knows how to do is go 5 mid, they will be clueless on how to respond to their side lanes being taken. Eventually they will send 5 top or 5 bot. That is the rest of the team's time to push mid.

Nikoyopu5 votes

As I support main this means I have very short queue times.

ItsCalledALance5 votes

nobody wants to sit by and be some assholes bitch the entire game. Fk that. i'd rather play a role that isn't the team punching bag.

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