Thoughts on Champ "Leak", Kai'sa

Forhonor321··4 votes·2,285 views
New Champ, Kai'Sa

OK so i just saw this when I woke up and I'm fairly certain that she'll get officially revealed later today, so I'm using the term "leak" loosely, but I still want to start a discussion post about the champ gameplay-wise. Looks I'll post later on SA&S as separate subject.

So let's start off:

> Passive: Second Skin

  • Caustic wounds - basic attacks against enemies mark them with plasma, dealing increased bonus magic damage. after a few consecutive attacks, plasma ruptures dealing a burst of damage based off of missing health. Allies immobilizing effects stack plasma.

  • Living weapon: abilities become empowered based off of experience and stats gained from the shop.

> Q: Icathian Rain

  • Release swarm of missiles, distributed evenly among enemies. Additional hits on same target deal reduced damage.

  • Living Weapon: More missiles when you have enough bonus AD

>W: Void Seeker

  • Fires beam of Void energy, revealing first enemy hit, dealing magic damage, and stacking plasma.

-** Living weapon**: More damage and refund part of CD on champion hit with enough bonus AP

>E: Supercharger

  • Charges up, gaining MS but can't attack. After charge up, increase attack speed. Basic attacks reduce Supercharger CD

  • Living weapon: Briefly grants true invisibility when charging up with enough bonus Attack Speed

>R: Killer Instinct

  • Dash super fast and far to location near enemy champ marked with plasma and gain damage absorbing shield.

So off the bat, she seems interesting with the passive, especially since one of her abilities gets empowered by AP so maybe there will be an alternate playstyle to her of an APC.

However, then I run into the issues. Invisibility on the empowered E. We all know how Vayne is, so whether or not "brief" invisibility means she comes out before the charge is complete to allow us to react remains to be seen. WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER VAYNE IN LEAGUE, ONE IS BAD ENOUGH!

The passive going into a semi-execute. Seriously, having a passive that's essentially a built in execute doesn't sound that good, especially when the champ seems hard to deal with.

On top of that, if she's going to have empowered shit that scales from both AP and AD that means she could be more like Kog in a hybrid carry and we all know how he's been doing as well.

But what are the possitives? Well, she needs to ramp up to get her empowered abilities through items so she's more late game, she doesn't really have a lot of self-peel or CC, and her ult gets her into the fight so that's the "high-risk, high-reward" shir Reav3 talked in his Roadmap.

Overall, I'm still not certain what to think yet 'til I see her in action. What are your thoughts?

16 Comments

Çhåryzård4 votes

please not another vayne..

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

no self peeling hard cc

WickedCrow4 votes

Wow, it took one champion to remove Swain's only unique mechanic in a long-range, damaging and revealing ability. And she does it better. Amazing.

CatSith5 votes

swains is aoe and reveals the whole area, hers is only the first target hit.

WickedCrow1 votes

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swains is aoe and reveals the whole area, hers is only the first target hit.

She reveals in an AoE too? Its a whole AoE around the first target hit, wider than Swain's W.

Valor Jungle2 votes

Honestly, Riot releasing this champion so soon after releasing She who shall not be named, to me, is proof the game is going to continue on to shitsville. It feels like everything new is just super overloaded. Camille, Zoe, Warwick, fucking aids. This shit scales off AD and AP, cool rush rageblade and 1v9. fun game...

Diamond2Kappa1 votes

Scales off having a lot of AD AP and attack speed? Uhh The pictures look real tho so idk lul

Riven is my life1 votes

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Scales off having a lot of AD AP and attack speed? Uhh The pictures look real tho so idk lul

I think she will build rageblade - botrk, but I can't say it for sure, BCS I don't know her numbers are yet.

SooFr0sty1 votes

Pretty sure they said she was like Vayne in the High skill cap department and that's about it. Maybe her stealth but I didn't infer that from that post.

She seems fine, no numbers kind of limit a reaction though. So far a pretty tame stealth that won't be used until later in game.

I personally don't have an issue with her at first glance.

Also the point about Kog is he is more hybrid compared to her which is one or the other it seems.

Reformedfindlay2 votes

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Pretty sure they said she was like Vayne in the High skill cap department and that's about it. Maybe her stealth but I didn't infer that from that post.

She seems fine, no numbers kind of limit a reaction though. So far a pretty tame stealth that won't be used until later in game.

I personally don't have an issue with her at first glance.

Also the point about Kog is he is more hybrid compared to her which is one or the other it seems.

Vayne is 100% point n click on all her dmg sources. High skill is a meme

Arakadia3 votes

Aim isn't the only form of skill expression.

Arakadia1 votes

She seems extremely feast or famine considering her passive being a large source of her power and being useless if she is behind along with her ult being a death sentence if she can't "fight her way out".

CatSith1 votes

until we know how much scaling the empowered passives require we won't know for sure how strong she ll be, maybe she has a limited amount to be empowered like kha's ult?

but at first glance i think she doesn't seem too strong but looks very fun to play. A+ for the attack limitation on her E (supercharger) while its active, adds counter play and a brief period to defend yourself/fight back. Really like the hybrid ad/ap approach they fleshed out in her kit.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

Seems more like an engage ADC. The execute damage fits perfectly here.

Her mobility is all tied towards moving towards or damaging champions.

Using her E like a "flee" ability means losing out on E's bonus damage if a fight breaks out or is breaking out.

R can only be used to dash to champions.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

she seems like an ADC with a bunch of existing Void champion stuff in her.

her W > R interaction is like Rek'sai's. Her E reminds me greatly of Kha'Zix as does the Q given it does more damage when the target is isolated. Stacks reminds me of Velkoz

Design-wise, i get a huge Samus Aran vibe, which is fine by me.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

The best part is... we're getting closer to Irelia & Aatrox rework

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