I'm disappointed- No, FURIOUS, at these Lunar Even bundles

Forhonor321·2/8/2018, 9:18:48 PM·71 votes·7,476 views

Here's the thing: Everything in the Lunar Event is practically behind a bundle wall or pay X amount of money to obtain everything you want. Seriously, look at it.

  • Puppy Warwick Icon locked behind bundle for 1250 with Gemstone. Basically pay 1000 extra RP for the icon and get one free gemstone. Worthless to anyone who already has multiple gemstones and all the gem skins or doesn't want any gem skins.

  • Puppy Nasus Icon locked behind bundle for golden token for gold chroma if you want for 540. Easy outlet to gather one of those chromas and the icon for their combined prices (except if you just want the icon)

  • Puppy Nasus/Warwick Wards behind bundle exclusively for extra orbs and tokens. Granted, doing the math, it does save you money (640 ward, 750 (revel orb & 4 tokens 250 x3), 290 for golden chroma token from before = 1680 for price of 1500) but still if you don't want the bundle, you shouldn't be forced to buy it if you just want the ward.

And now lets get into something a bit more contriversal: the loading borders and new Lunar chromas:

  • Loading borders either are 64 tokens, so only one if you go through the missions and don't want to save for gold chroma, or an extra 425 if you buy the base bundle, which they're only available in!. WHY!?!?! Didn't we already have this issue in the last Star Guardian event about buying the loading borders and through bundles? Did Riot seriously not learn from that? We got all three loading borders from last PROJECT event, why not make it the same here?

  • Red chroma for skins exclusive through bundle + extra 425 for loading border as before if you want to grab all of that together. Why make one particular chroma only exclusive through a god damn bundle but only for a limited time? Why start implementing this rule of marketing now? What is this, SMITE?

And once again, you can only gain 96 total from all the mission in this, so you can only get one loading border or chroma from token technically for free. So it all comes down to:

  • Want rest of chromas, buy orbs + bundles to get them and either use regular tokens to upgrade to golden or get lucking in the orbs.
  • Want rest of loading borders, buy orbs and/or bundles to get them.

While we're at it, let's look over the prices of these bundles and whatnot with the calculator of nearest pricing:

  • Puppy Ward bundles (1500 RP = $10.71, $21.42 for both)
  • Nasus Puppy Icon (540 RP = $4.15)
  • Warwick Puppy Icon (1250 RP = $9.06)
  • Legendary Loot Bundle (5500 RP = $38.19)
  • Base Lunar Bundles with Skin and Border (1775 RP = $12.68, $38.04 for all three)
  • Year of the Dog Bundle (4686 RP = $32.80)
  • Chroma bundles w/o loading border ( 2225 RP (Nasus & WW) = $15.89, $31.78 for both, 2420 RP (Lux) = $17.29, $49.07 total)
  • Chroma bundles with loading border ( 2650 RP (Nasus & WW) = $18.93, $37.85 for both, 2845 RP (Lux) = $19.91, $57.77 total)

So if we wanted to get the new Lux, Nasus and WW skins (which we will count as already having the champs) with borders (while saving tokens we gain from missions for one gold chroma) and also want all the other chromas, we would roughly need to buy 8145 RP, which as calculated is roughly around $57.77 dollars, or buy the year of the dog bundle at 4686 ($32.80) and then buy all the regular chromas, which would roughly be around 2830 RP or $19.81 for a grand total of $52.61 (might be a bit wrong in my math so don't come beating my head around saying I was wrong in prices).

**But that's just if we're wanting the new skins, borders and chromas with them. **If we also want the icons, or wards, we need to drop another $34.63 worth of RP on top of the $52.61. And if you want the other gold chromas, well then I'm going to wish you luck on that because the orbs will more than likely drop random amounts or random chances of gold tokens and who knows what the statistics of those are.

I'm severely disappointed in Riot. I am. I thought that they learned their lesson of having borders being bought rather than gaining them for free and keep them out of bundles only. I thought they learned this with the last PROJECT event. And worst off, with how the game is right now, being nearly un-enjoyable to play for many/most, them being greedy with this event is really put more of a dent of my respect for them even more now. I'm almost ashamed to be hanging on to this game if they're going to try this while the game is at (arguably) the worst it's been now.

And I really don't want to spend money to them to continue supporting this kind of marketing behavior, whether or not the game is in a terrible state.

97 Comments

muh Shroom2/8/2018, 9:46:30 PM31 votes

or you could just, I don't know, not buy literally everything that comes out? especially if you say you don't want to support the game. it's fine, you don't need to the game is free. just don't buy every skin or border or useless icon or that extra gemstone. also, what if the point of the borders so that you only pick one? it's the same deal with the golden chromas. having only one makes it more special, picking either your favorite champ, or just skin. you're completely overreacting, and also acting like a baby.

Mast0r Beith2/8/2018, 10:09:44 PM17 votes

Dont forget that youre not forced to buy any of these since all of this is only cosmetic. Rito somehow has to make money with League and skins are a player friendly way to do so, even if certain skins are behind a paywal. And not to forget you can do so much more without money then you could have done some years ago since there are now crates and stuff you can get champs, skins, emotes etc. from.

Got my Pulsfire Ez that way, so i think its kind of unfair to blame rito for that

Btw. first post here so, Hi :D

Sihari2/8/2018, 11:45:15 PM15 votes

Thats exactly the problem that I had with the snowdown items. I really wanted the cute penguin- and poro-icon, but they had to be fused together with that super expensive gemstone that I really dont need. Now I cry a bit every time I see someone with one of them... (And RIOT should also cry a tiny bit, because they totaly missed out on the money I would have payed for these icons, if they hadnt tryed to trick me into buying more than I want to!)

And now they try to do the same thing with the cute puppy icons? Shame on you RIOT! Playing like that with my heart isnt nice! [sg-janna]

toravi2/8/2018, 10:01:53 PM14 votes

I just want the puppy Warwick icon and Ward. :/ I don't want no gemstone or anything else. I guess I'm not getting them.

Anastaecia2/8/2018, 9:55:43 PM13 votes

You are aware that the game is free? And that skins are what keep it going?

Super Tedders2/8/2018, 10:48:57 PM9 votes

You can't even buy the Wukong or the "Shhhh" emote unless you buy the bundle.

ADC5LUT2/9/2018, 5:58:28 AM8 votes

ya for the most part ive stopped giving riot my money, every once in awhile i may buy a skin (and i mean like, maybe once or twice a year) but otherwise i just dont give a fuck anymore i have no incentive to dump money into a game thats long stopped giving a fuck about me as a player.

Nea1042/9/2018, 1:00:16 AM6 votes

Milking. Money.

:P

Hauling Ashe2/8/2018, 10:30:09 PM6 votes

Was hoping to be able to simply lay down a few bucks per golden chroma. I didn't want the ward skins and icons and the bundle pricetag. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

General Esdeath 2/9/2018, 6:54:12 AM6 votes

Where's all the people who said "it's just cosmetics, just buy the ones you want"?

Where are you guys now?

ModCaptainMårvelous2/9/2018, 5:44:47 PM5 votes

I want to some things I'm seeing in this thread and (IMO) why OP's criticisms of the way Riot is selling these skins is valid:

Point: "You don't have to spend money, it's cosmetic."

Counterpoint: Despite this, OP could very well want to get some of these things and give Riot money. This isn't abount "don't spend money if you don't want it" but rather "you should accept whatever deal you're given." In addition, Riot has made much of these things exclusive and time-based. While the skins will come back, there's no telling if the chroma or the icons will come back. OP might be backed into a corner and forced to get something he'd want now, even if it's in a deal he doesn't want, because nobody knows if he can get it at a later date.

Point: "Just don't buy everything you see."

Counterpoint: Certain things come in certain bundles. This means that even if he just wants two icons he has to spend far more than he would just to get all of them. Same goes for the exclusive chromas: If he wants the red one, he has to buy the specific bundle. This is again not an argument about wanting to get everything with a bundle but rather wanting to get a specific thing but having to buy the bundle.

Point: "Riot is a company and has to make sales."

Counterpoint: They can do so in a more consumer-friendly way. While I think they're both scummy, there's a huge difference between Overwatch loot boxes and Battlefront 2's loot boxes which color peoples opinions on them. Plus, despite the mission system, OP has to sink money in. You can love League and even Riot but hitting a paywall is never fun.

All that said, I'm in somewhat agreement with OP. While I get that Riot wants to make/offer exclusive content with bundles, it's something Riot should let players customize to a degree. It would encourage more sales and you never feel like you're getting stuff you don't want, as you can tweak and purchase content in a way that fits your desires. Sorry you can't get everything you want though, I know that feeling of the grind.

INoble KnightI2/9/2018, 12:38:24 PM5 votes

I usually buy all the bundles with borders cause I like to collect things. This is the first time I won't be doing that.

ModJikker2/10/2018, 12:01:45 AM3 votes

Edited out an offensive comment. Let's keep it respectful and only have friendly debates here.

Thanks

[poppy-wink]

VexingRaven2/9/2018, 2:19:53 AM3 votes

I decided these events were bullshit when I bought a bundle in the Worlds event only for them to immediately make everything I bought worthless by nerfing the orange essence rate. I'm not surprised this one is even worse.

PurinShoujo2/10/2018, 7:49:14 PM2 votes

I'm mostly just upset about the puppy warwick icon. It's SO CUTE but I can't justify spending 1250 RP on an icon when I have no desire for the added gemstone that's boosting its price up. I didn't mind paying 520 for the Nasus icon or for the ward bundles and I don't really care about anything else. But whyyyyyyy 1250 for an icon and gemstone!? I'm so sad!!!! [sg-janna]

Would have been much happier if they gave me a few revel orbs with it instead. At least then I have a chance for a grab bag which I DID happen to get in an orb from the ward bundle I bought.

ISLAMICWARRIOR992/9/2018, 1:30:41 AM2 votes

Lol its a fucking product you don't go whine when Walmart charges you for something. People need to stop bitching they cant get some uselss cosmetic for free.

Shirvallah2/10/2018, 2:46:34 AM2 votes

This is worse than the Star Guardian event, and that was already greedy enough. :/