So is Shaco actually viable?

Yuumi or Lose··3 votes·705 views

So I saw the Shaco play in the match with UOL and Gambit and it was cool seeing Shaco and winning. The thing is, people believe that it's not that Shaco is good, Gambit just played very horrible. So I was watching Monte analyze the game and he says Shaco is a very bad champion and that UOL got very lucky because they didn't know how to play against it. Had it been a different team, they would have gotten dominated.

So what I'm wondering is, is Shaco actually good or was it all just a fluke?

7 Comments

usul12024 votes

Shaco is viable under 1 of 2 conditions.

1: your enemy team doesn't know how to play against him. If they don't know what they're doing and don't pink/watch for signs, you can pop their ADC all day. This method works up to a point, and is semi-fun to play.

2: You're a twisted psycho who loves the game of cat and mouse where the mouse has a very large, sharp, knife. Watch Shaclone play shaco sometime. the guys crazy. His control of the clone and timing it with his Q can leave enemies searching for him halfway across the map just because he knows exactly what he's doing, how long he's invisible, and just when to juke. Clone control is everything, and it is terrifying.

Zarxis2 votes

Shaco's viable when mastered and horribly underpowered when not. He's extremely squishy and fairly item-reliant, but his boxes and Q provide him with some very powerful tools for circumventing his weaknesses. I'm sure you've seen videos/gameplay recaps (or actual Shacos in your games, rare as they may be) in which you saw Shaco escape ridiculously impossible circumstances or noticed him plow through jungle camps while taking very little damage. Basically, he has one of the best utility-based toolsets in the game. Due to the mastery required for using his Q and W effectively (I would list his ultimate, but the clone is very easily discerned from Shaco, making its "trickery" value very low when used against smart players), you won't see many successful Shaco players in lower levels of gameplay. He requires dedication to master because every person a Shaco plays against will react to him differently— relatively few players will walk directly into a box placed behind them into a gank, but a similarly low number of them will know how to deal with the fact that his Q isn't just stealth; it's a blink, as well. Some enemy teams will wise up to a Shaco in the later stages of the game by allowing their tanks to walk into possible box locations or use item 3364 to remove boxes, but many will end up losing teamfights because one of their carries walked into a box.

TL;DR: Yes, Shaco is viable, but you have to be skilled with his unique kit to take advantage of him.

RouterSmiter1 votes

long before kikis played shaco he was OP in the jungle, starting from red, you can solo your first buff then level q second and jump over baron/dragon pits into the enemy jungle and wait in the bush buy their second buff or even first if they have a slow clear. And pick up a easy first blood. this guy is legit the god of shaco https://www.youtube.com/user/Shaclone

Trash MammaI1 votes

Ever since the new jungle came his early game got even better. You can always find enemies with low hp in their jungle and just come stab them

insaiyanbacca1 votes

he is viable but he does have some issues, 1 tank junglers which are popular right now make it hard for him, 2 you need to know what to do against every champion in order to do great generally, 3 if the enemy jungler knows how to deal with you your screwed. and if you dont gank early and often you pretty much failed pink wards are your enemies

Joe Dredd1 votes

People are going to say that any non 100% god tier champ is trash tier

Xela Syab1 votes

Ok Shaco needs some tweaks but he's not bad, hes just a really old champion who got bug fixes then a ton of nerfs and a minor rework.

  1. Shaco falls of late game.. Always.
  2. Shaco loses if he can't get any ganks early.
  3. Shaco has to splitpush or bd to win games or get a gank on the carry and survive.

Is Shaco viable? Not so much in this meta that focuses on objectives, teamfighting, and strong front lines. Counter jungling is weaker now with increased vision and tank junglers, laners play safer early game and afk farm till teamfights, most midlaners are mobile assassins that can either outplay or outrun you, and most top laners are tanks so they are hard to gank for shaco. With this meta Shaco players really cant get an early advantage and snowball.

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