Sup. I'm a Lucian main, but I don't always get the role I want, so I was looking for a mid laner, and I'm wondering about Talon. I play some Zed, but I don't enjoy him, and I'm not very good at him, so I was wondering if Talon would be a good replacement. If so, what's the proper build, what are tough lanes to play him in, how do you carry, what's the proper combo? Thanks in advance
xxxDogmanxxx2 votesTo be a successful Talon, you must ROAM. Midlane isn't your only lane, All lanes belong to Talon. Winning lane? Shove it to enemy turret then roam, snowballing yourself and your teammates. Losing lane? Abandon it and roam, stay relevant that way and only occasionally defend your turret. You can't afford to farm mid lane all game and wait till the late game. You should get something like 50% to 60% of your money from kills. You farm enemy champions, not minions.
Hardstuck G41 votesSo, I have to do what I'm good at when it comes to ADCs? xD
The Bíg Ticket2 votesHe is generally kinda weak in lane because unlike Zed his poke and waveclear is mana gated and he doesn't have that much threat until level 6. He definitely can come back from a deficit alot easier than Zed though. In mid game you get alot of kills by just roaming and picking people off.
The fastest burst combo is E onto a target, pressing R while autoattacking and throwing your W and then immediately resetting your autoattack with your Q. That is enough to kill any squishy. If you are having trouble with the autoattack reset you can activate Q before jumping in, it is not a big loss of damage until lategame.
Hardstuck G41 votesSo E->Auto->R->W->Q?
The Bíg Ticket1 votesE -R- Auto - W -Q
Hardstuck G41 votesAlright, thanks.
Do It For NA 1 votesTalon's pretty good, he's basically the AOE team fight version of Zed and isn't countered by qss
Tough lanes : 
Hardstuck G41 votesHow does one play against those two lanes? What makes them tough?
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesfizz is bullshit thats why. there isn't an objective way to tell you why does fizz makes someone life hard. he just bullshits. you get him down to 10% health your at 50% and he kills you. he can basically avoid damage while dealing alot of burst + sustained damage
diana is too tanky and is too sticky for him.
Do It For NA 1 votesThe thing that makes going against Fizz tough is his ability to dodge your W or R damage, so you can't instaburst him unless he messes up and uses his E to farm or try to push the wave. Punish him for using his E incorrectly. Diana is tough because of how tanky she is with her W shield and how she can burst you if you mess up. Also she can draw you out of your stealth if you E on top her her and use your ult, if she instantly uses her E, she can pull you out of your ult.
Buy Corrupting Potion for these lanes, you're just mainly going to poke and farm up until you get youmuus, then you can try to punish mispositioning.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesif they are all squish with 1 tank.
your boots of choice. +
if they have ap damage which is most likely.
if they have bruisers with some tank items I'd get a last whisper instead of death dance.
thats what I build am only silver.
what I do is wait to level 6. and after that try to all in any squishy below 75% health. the combo is E to get the damage amp. Q->W u can get Q ready before the E then you ult. they should be dead with ignite.
you roam. I find bot lane a little less appealing to roam for him I usually go top. he doesn't have the mobility of zed so keep that in mind once your in your in. you have slight ms boost from your ult. but thats about it.
I rush maw first item if am against ap. against ad get ravenous first then yommous.
i find talon a lot better than zed in team fights and late game. in team fights you try to all in a squishy. but don't just focus the squishy. use your W and Ult to do as much damage as possible to the whole enemy team but don't initiate they will lock you down and kill you.
I dont main talon but I play him once here and once there and I think hes outdated but hes provides very reliable damage.'
after the qss changes tho am not sure if he will be better than say zed but hes still really good. also if the enemy team has zed feel confident to play talon hes very good pick against zed since your burst isnt delayed and your ult counters his unless there is a pink ward around.
one thing to keep in mind is lack of mobility so don't dive in without knowing you will get the kill 100%.
Gigahappytown1 votesThere are no tough lanes
If you can't farm kills from mid lane rush mobis/swifties and roam a lot
tiamat ghostblade hydra black cleaver trinity force infinity edge is the standard build your job is to kill the enemy carry getting items like deaths dance and maw is retarded. e>w>q>r then aa and hydra if they aren't dead
if they have no escape e>w>r>aa>q>hydra
if they have a escape
e>w>aa>q>hydra>r
**NEVER **buy last whisper
you will _never _ want to attack a tank
and last whisper is useless against carry champs
JayenKei1 votesHow do you carry? Snowball other lanes by roaming
Item build Rush tiamat (don't finish) - > ghostblade - >boots of swiftness - > maw/dusk blade - > maw/dusk blade - > black cleaver/scimitar/defensive item - > finish hydra (finish earlier if you feel like you need the sustain)
Tough lanes: Diana, fizz, Syndra, niche picks (bruisers)
Combos: Full damage: E + aa + q + W + r + tiamat/hydra Fast combo: E + q + r + W + tiamat Ghostblade gank: ghostblade active + r + E + aa + q + W + tiamat Team fight: E (anyone, preferably the carries obviously) + q + r + run behind enemy team + W + tiamat + run away and come back when you have cool downs
And obviously ignite whenever you have it Also don't be afraid to do Flash E to get a Jill If enemy is too far... E to an enemy minion then use W to slow them down To escape using E to a jungle creep is helpful and takes people by surprise If the enemy jungler is ganking from behind E onto the jungler and run (r if you have it) In Lane don't use E unless you see important cds blown (ahri charm, Syndra W, fizz e) For lanes like fizz or LeBlanc using E onto an enemy minion to dodge their combo (lb q+W, fizz e+q) is helpful, however be careful because you are vulnerable to ganks