When riot created PBE it was meant for beta test ( bugs, new champions items ) and to AVOID thing as OP release xin zao. Warwick+skirmish saber. Pantheon/fiora soloing dragon lvl 2/3.
Why don't we skip PBE and just launch everything? I mean, keep PBE during normal season. Turn PBE down for pre season and go bonkers. It's just a waste of resources.
SmokingPuffin5 votesPBE catches 95% of the mistakes.
Also, PBE is way more about identifying bugs and glitches than it is about balance.
You really don't want a world where stuff just goes live.
Cenobite Azaziel2 votesPBE catches 95% of the mistakes.
Also, PBE is way more about identifying bugs and glitches than it is about balance.
You really don't want a world where stuff just goes live.
Yes. PBE is about balance too. 90% of the nerfs pass by the PBE so they can see if they are balanced. Tresh range nerf, Ryze nerf, lucian buff and nerfs and the win rate impact of them.
Launch feral flare was broken too. Tested on PBE. Azir the king of bugs. Now we have a bug where the jungler monsters get stuck on the baron pit ( syndra toss).
Some of them are game breaking issues that PBE counldn't get or the players on PBE weren't good enough to make a strategy.
Sure, riot could PAY some professionals to play the real beta ( Yeah, I know there is closed beta of some nerfs and champions, still, all I can see is brokeness and buggy). Gaming now days is all about delivering a broken product and patch it up later. (braum instakilled on baron ? =])
SmokingPuffin1 votesYes. PBE is about balance too. 90% of the nerfs pass by the PBE so they can see if they are balanced. Tresh range nerf, Ryze nerf, lucian buff and nerfs and the win rate impact of them.
Most games in PBE aren't serious. Matchmaking is legendarily bad and it's hard to get testers that are any good to go test anyway.
Riot internal testing is a better place to get balance feedback, but they're prone to groupthink.
There's really no good path to zero balance escapes.
Azir the king of bugs.
This story was pretty weird for me. They knew he was broken, they got tons of bug reports with him, they still released him per the previous schedule.
Now we have a bug where the jungler monsters get stuck on the baron pit ( syndra toss).
Remember when Poppy could push the baron into enemy turret range? Fun times.
Gaming now days is all about delivering a broken product and patch it up later. (braum instakilled on baron ? =])
Honestly I rather enjoy our annual breaking league routine. Balance is overrated when it comes to fun, at least in small doses.
Sukishoo1 votes"Tresh" lolz.
warpenguin5555 votesPlease shut up. You dont know what you are talking about. PBE catched bugs, not all of them, removing all bugs is impossible.
Sukishoo1 votesTHIS.
The PBE is there for the major testing before it hits live and obviously there will STILL be issues when it hits the live as nothing is perfect.
RoyaiChaos4 votesPBE misses a few things (that honestly aren't that broken), and suddenly it's useless.
Narog3 votesquestioning PBE is important , or at least trying to overhaul the way it works.
Junkο1 votesI'm surprised you didn't mention Azir at all
Cenobite Azaziel1 votesHey, just passed by to throw in an update. http://imgur.com/j1480Fv
Cover of op.gg. WW with 60% win rate. 58% now with 28% pickrate . Banrate = 82% . =] Pbe is working just fine.