No New Supports?

Covert Ops Gnar·Feb 1, 2017·1 votes·648 views

Since I started playing 5 years ago, here have been the support releases

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/champion-release

tahm and bard being 2 years ago braum being 3 years ago thresh being 4/5 years ago,

otherwise we got, in the past 2 years we got a ** top, jungle, top, mid, mid, adc, top, jungle, (tahm) top, (ekko) top/mid/jungle, then finally (bard) SUPPORT** **5 tops (counting ekko and tahm in top lane for clarity), 2 mids, 2 jungles, and an adc after the last true support has been released. **

doesn't count, I'm talking about bottom lane supports.

those are my favorite 5 supports and Riot hasn't made any more. They did a great job on designing them, why haven't they made more?

The only other options are the horrendously outdated or a mage which is why nobody wants to support.

http://imgur.com/a/UBFMV

8 Comments

Professor WardFeb 1, 20171 votes

top in my opinion would have to be the easiest of champions to balance from first look.

support on the other hand, is hard to do without being completely off the wall, braum and bard are on the fringes of it for instance.

OurLestradeFeb 1, 20171 votes

There was the Taric rework if that counts, with his painfully boring ult that I'm still complaining about almost a year on. Hell, the last support with a satisfying ult that had some actual oomf to it was Braum. The issue is the whole strategic niche thingie, since most of the support types are covered at this point. When it eventually happens it'll probably be another Tahm situation when they get around to a new support - you press one button and that's all you ever do. Getting tired of that junk. Of course to Riot the support power fantasy dream is buying Redemption and spamming shield actives, but shhhh...

Covert Ops GnarFeb 1, 20171 votes

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There was the Taric rework if that counts, with his painfully boring ult that I'm still complaining about almost a year on. Hell, the last support with a satisfying ult that had some actual oomf to it was Braum. The issue is the whole strategic niche thingie, since most of the support types are covered at this point. When it eventually happens it'll probably be another Tahm situation when they get around to a new support - you press one button and that's all you ever do. Getting tired of that junk. Of course to Riot the support power fantasy dream is buying Redemption and spamming shield actives, but shhhh...

Braum has to be my all-time favorite support. After that, Thresh then Bard . Too bad they made Braum dogshit because "pros play him". The difference with support though, is that you can be good at it, but not win. If you're a god tier Azir, you'll carry and win anyways. If you're a god tier Braum, you rely on carrying your team into carrying you. Making Braum in solo queue, shit (on top of damage creep).

I liked pre-rework taric. Felt more impactful and not homosexual.

OurLestradeFeb 1, 20171 votes

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has to be my all-time favorite support. After that, then . Too bad they made Braum dogshit because "pros play him". The difference with support though, is that you can be good at it, but not win. If you're a god tier Azir, you'll carry and win anyways. If you're a god tier Braum, you rely on carrying your team into carrying you. Making Braum in solo queue, shit (on top of damage creep).

I liked pre-rework taric. Felt more impactful and not homosexual.

I live off solo queue support since I hate ranked and people, and if you ask me Braum's awesome for that because he can jump in and fix people's mistakes himself. All his skills also have immediate response to them that make you feel like you have actual control, if that makes sense - Q's an instant skill shot, W's an instant dash, E's an instant and noticeable boost in tankiness, ult's practically instant hard CC, the lot. It's satisfying. With Taric the only instant feedback he really has is his W shield (His passive is juicy though, I've outdueled Camilles as Taric several times)

The backfiring philosophy of "It has a bunch of ways to go wrong, but IF it works it's great!" that's become the basis of support design in the past few years really sucks if you ask me, because 9 times out of 10 you'll have a bad time with it and feel awful in contrast to all the other roles having reliable instant satisfaction with damage and death and junk :P (Backfiring support moves would be like Bard ult, Taric ult, Ivern's bushes, Tahm's W... That stuff)

To be fair, I actually haven't played any PvP at all this year so far because of uni and I've been hearing all the horror stories of mage bot lanes at the moment so... Eugh :/

ErockandrollFeb 1, 20172 votes

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There was the Taric rework if that counts, with his painfully boring ult that I'm still complaining about almost a year on. Hell, the last support with a satisfying ult that had some actual oomf to it was Braum. The issue is the whole strategic niche thingie, since most of the support types are covered at this point. When it eventually happens it'll probably be another Tahm situation when they get around to a new support - you press one button and that's all you ever do. Getting tired of that junk. Of course to Riot the support power fantasy dream is buying Redemption and spamming shield actives, but shhhh...

I guess an AoE stasis, or a long range take your ADC with you ult, doesn't count as oomf. But to that extent, no, we haven't gotten a CC monster in a fair while.

And the thing with Tahm was, he wasn't exactly designed to be a support initially, Riot simply decided not to redesign his kit when they had several supportive elements. (But he was designed bottom up to be a support) So, maybe a supports kit simply comes out as a happy accident.

lastly, the power fantasy you speak of, doesn't really affect the champions themselves. Rather, putting support item focus on the Active, simply makes it more universal. You could argue that Redemption is better on Enchanters as a result of it's stats, but you don't buy it for the stats, you buy it for the active. Thus any support can pick it up to good effect.

chipndip1Feb 2, 20171 votes

What do you mean? Isn't that fun?

k wìxFeb 1, 20171 votes

Was so hyped when i saw Ivern as a support main. Unfortunately he just doesn't work down there at all.
** With a few potential tweaks, he could totally be viable in bot lane as support. Let's go RITO**