Why does Lulu's E enemy cast deal damage

Athenes Lulu·Mar 23, 2017·8 votes·680 views

just wondering

12 Comments

TheLittlestLuluMar 23, 20175 votes

Probably because it costs 100 mana to cast on an enemy at rank 5, and puts your shield on cooldown.

The Yetii RiderMar 23, 20173 votes

Its to draw aggro from towers. Otherwise you could zoom up, mark someone with your E under tower, then back off and Q them easy.

Athenes LuluMar 23, 20172 votes

But if you really want to draw aggro from towers you should just auto.

Still unnecessary for her E to deal damage at all in this case.

PhDs NutsMar 23, 20173 votes

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But if you really want to draw aggro from towers you should just auto.

Still unnecessary for her E to deal damage at all in this case.

What? It's so she can't walk into tower range with minions and put E on you for free. She doesn't want aggro. She wouldn't auto attack.

Athenes LuluMar 23, 20172 votes

Oh, I misread something there.

But then if that's the case, then why does it do so much damage? Shouldn't it deal at most LB new dash level kind of damage then?

Illâoi Evê SiônMar 23, 20173 votes

Why shouldn't it deal damage? Genuinely curious.

Athenes LuluMar 23, 20172 votes

I don't see the point of having an actually painful point-and-click damage spell when Lulu already does so much. With nearly no retaliation, and that she often gets to do it for free of punishment. Usually followed by landing Q poke that's just as difficult to avoid.

Most of the time people use it to position Pix anyways, and adding damage to that is way overkill when she already has plenty of ways to poke in the first place, both in a solo lane AND botlane.

Is "warding" and trashing stealth with a point-and-click that's usually followed up by even more poke damage (from Q) not enough? There's no reason to even use E enemy cast at all unless you want to use it for vision purposes, since you can do the same kinds of positioning as if you used it ally cast...

And of course it misleads people into thinking that all Lulu does is poke and peel, where in reality Lulu does way more than just that.

Illâoi Evê SiônMar 23, 20171 votes

I think you're mistaken on why you use on E on enemies in the laning phase. It's not for positioning Pix, it's for dealing damage on its own. When playing aggressive, E is Lulu's second large source of damage in the laning phase. The other isn't her Q, it's her basic attacks with Pix. Her Q is only used for the little bonus damage and the slow. The slow helps you win trades when kiting, peeling, or chasing enemies.

Athenes LuluMar 23, 20171 votes

I'm aware of that, and that it is very interactive to play as and against.

Very, very, very, very, interactive and involves a lot of thought.

Illâoi Evê SiônMar 23, 20171 votes

You cannot use your shield after you use your E on an enemy, so you or your carry is vulnerable for a time. It also doesn't have the largest of ranges, so by using it you automatically put yourself in position that can be taken advantage of. Wait for Lulu to use her E offensively and collapse on her or her Marksman.

Other than that, tons of point and click damage abilities exist. There's no reason to take one away from an Enchanter (Lulu is consistently among the lowest 5 damage dealers in the game).

Athenes LuluMar 23, 20171 votes

Go tell that to people playing against her, then.

Because apparently she can easily 1v2 and get away without ever having to use shield.

Illâoi Evê SiônMar 23, 20171 votes

If you have problems with her current strength and numbers, make a thread about that. The thread you made here is about her kit design.