You can kill the enemy jungler early several times, have more farm, have higher kill participation...and still potentially be behind them in level.
Its gotten to the point where camping a lane gets you a giant advantage over the enemy junglers just because of the exp you soak.
Moosh2 votesye I quit playing ranked on my main just isnt fun to play a brainless tank and hope your adc isnt dumb
Rainfall1 votesthere are a ton of full ap/ad toplan champions. midlane is still a carry lane adc obivously you can still play ap supports and assasin junglers. sure a lot of assasins in the jungle are not meta right now but in almost every role you can choose to play carry champions.
muted team chat1 voteswhoa perfect summary of ranked as a jg right now
Rainfall1 votesjungle is going back to becoming a supportive role,like they used too.A lot of players complained about how bad jungle clear is crippling a lot of junglers and keeping them on low win/play rates compared to meta junglers who have good wave clear.So with the new catchup system riot has implemented in the jungle you will still lose gold if you stay behind in clearing your jungle but you will not lose exp.which is good for junglers that later become supports 2.0 like nunu.
WoonStruck1 votesNo, the problem is that jungle exp is garbage, so junglers camp lanes because the exp soak puts them ahead of the enemy jungler no matter how well they're doing with conventional jungling.
The Leo Cat1 votesNo, the problem is that jungle exp is garbage, so junglers camp lanes because the exp soak puts them ahead of the enemy jungler no matter how well they're doing with conventional jungling.
Not necessarily true.
Constantly ganking will set a Jungler behind. This is why we jung mains find "just gank my lane! It's easy exp and gold!" so annoying. XP soaking might be nice, but you are also falling behind in gold. Which is pretty damned important given that a Jung has the second worst income. And the XP we get from clearing our camps is worth far more than soaking XP. Why? Read up on our jungle items. This is why a Jung will usually hit level 3 or 4 (if you start at raptors with a champion that can do it efficiently) before anyone else in the game.
The jungle has what is called catch up experience. This means that the XP is boosted slightly for the Jungler who's killing stronger creatures. This boost is further enhanced by their jungle item. This is simply to keep the Jungler from falling too far behind while he's running around the Jungle.
If you want to set the enemy Jung behind, there's two MAJOR camps you need to counter jungle after the start up.
The Raptor and Krug camps. This is because these two camps will offer the most experience and gold. Because there is so many things that you need to kill. If your jungler is able to keep contesting these two camps, he will make the enemy jung his bitch.
But for the Jung to do this safely, he needs lane pressure. His lanes must be pushing into the enemy tower, which will most likely keep the laners from collapsing on him while he invades.
I've kept the enemy Jungler at least 5 levels behind me just by constantly killing his krugs, and crimsons, and stealing his buffs when I have the chance. I didn't have to gank or counter gank. Because the enemy jung would just feed if he tried to gank. The gap was made larger because I kept setting him back by killing him in his own jungle.