Wanna know the problem with Veigar?

Sasogwa·Oct 31, 2015·12 votes·785 views

His E cooldown. Back then pre-rework it was a higher cooldown, effectively making a huge window of opportunity once it's down. Right now, the fact that it's been shortened by the rework (which was invisible because he was garbage otherwise - until he got buffed several times on his reliability, which is good ) makes him very strong, especially lategame with 40% cdr, it's up quite often. I personally would not have nerfed the damage of Q/W, but increased E cooldown by 2 or 3 seconds. Anyway, what's done is done, I'm not sure if Veigar is still top tier.

Tbh, I'm not sure the old instant version with ridiculously high CD was less healthy than the current one. At least when his stun was down he was done for. Now he just runs a bit and has it again.

8 Comments

Curling VeigarOct 31, 20154 votes

I agree, revert the rework.

Corrupto123Oct 31, 20152 votes

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I agree, revert the rework.

this.

Very Hard EngageOct 31, 20152 votes

old veigar was high risk high reward.

new veigar is protect veigar for tons of team damages and team utility after 35minutes. dive early and snowball hard or else.

Heretic LunariOct 31, 20152 votes

I love playing Veigar and I say you're right. Increasing the E CD should have been a better nerf.

fééd l0rdOct 31, 20151 votes

He is too safe in generall. Why is he allowed to be so safe in lane and in teamfights? He can blow you up with no effort but you can not kill him that easily. And on the other side he is better as Syndra ( for example ) in .. everything.

My Waifu VanillaOct 31, 20151 votes

Runs a bit? That midget has 340 MS for who knows what reason which is 15 less than husain bolt that is Pantheon and 15 faster than almost every ADC in the game. Does he have it because he has no gap closer? If that is the case why do other mages not have it? Orianna is rocking 325 and is arguably easier to catch out than he is even if they were the same MS. I just cannot wrap my mind over the fact his ranges are fairly high and he can practically walk away from any gank unless they are rocking multiple gap closers or he is very blind and oblivious.

Also, Syndra who fills the same sort of role of one shot the carry while also having a stun has 330 MS and roughly the same disengage potential with their abilities.