AP Sona support, Sightstone or no Sightstone?

RedCyclone··5 votes·2,608 views

As someone who plays a ton of AP Sona I find myself asking this question

I tend to only buy it in ranked games just to appease people and stop people from pointing out the support has no sightstone so they are inting It's not that I dislike warding, I play a lot of supports and always get Sightstone on them (even LUX support) and I know how to ward well, it's not that I hate the item, the problem is Sightstone on AP Sona support and how annoying it is for her to buy.

AP Sona is great, she's like a carry support who literally carries the game through sheer damage and insane healing when she snowballs, zooming around the map at a constant 600ms and 1 shotting squishies. But to get that ball rolling, you need damage and you get a MASSIVE chunk of damage from some component items, like item 3145 item 3057item 3098 , I also personally pack a corrupting potion because it essentially doubles my laning time before having to recall (what is very powerful in this destroy bot meta) having to fit a Sightstone in this array of items causes problems, such as needing a full 2150g to get a Lichbane and making future items a pain in the ass to build, I would probably build the Eye item to have vision covered but it has such pitifully low stats for Sona to make use of that you may as well just get a Ruby Sightstone instead and sell the Frostfang, and the Frost Queen Claim active is extremely good for AP Sona as she can rush people down and burst them with the active very easily. It also prevents the very common situation from happening as much, you know the one where you ward and Kha'zix is in the brush so you die like a bitch.

I still ward in my AP Sona games, I even inform my team and if they put up enough resistance I will give in and get the Sightstone they wish me to get, I was wondering what the general consensus was about this.

27 Comments

Narvuntien4 votes

Support = sightstone.

It doesn't matter how hard you win your lane if you lose the game because you can't control objectives or prevent flanks or avoid getting caught out.

RedCyclone5 votes

There is a one trick support Sona player who doesn't get Sightstone in Masters, seems like their abilities on the champion has got him that far

chipndip13 votes

Because he isn't playing support. He plays mid/adc.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

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Because he isn't playing support. He plays mid/adc.

Ahristocats2 votes

no she is playing Sona Support

her name is colazor

chipndip11 votes

When he change that up? Last I checked he was going mid/adc Sona in Master/Challenger. Now he's supporting you in D1. The fuck happened?

Ahristocats2 votes

we're not talking about the same persone, you're talking about AWildAPSona, i'm talking about Colazor

chipndip11 votes

Ah, that makes so much more sense.

serenity71 votes

In masters the rest of the team will ward because they know what they're doing. You can't always be sure of that in lower ranks.

doiminat0r36002 votes

Support = sightstone.

Just because someone in high elo is playing it without sightstone, doesnt mean that you shouldn't build it in low elo.

Oleandervine4 votes

Always take item 2049 and then evolve it into item 2301 for slot efficiency so you can make lots of AP things like item 3285 item 3100 item 3165 item 3157 and item 3020

TheLastShadow453 votes

If you play support you get a item 2049.

RedCyclone1 votes

(psst try Stormraiders, if you can proc if you will rarely get caught out)

Ahristocats3 votes

that is not me friend, i'm not that good with Sona

It's Colazor

MavenSong3 votes

item 2301 a true gift, you give up slight damage for good utility. Then just full AP. Generally how i build her.

Ahristocats2 votes

except that if you get sightstone you're going to delay heavily the AP build which makes it fall of in late game due to enemies buying hexdrinker and base hp of targets increasing, and getting it faster will also increase the snowball heavily

you can get ride of sightstone, at least in high elo where each player buys a control ward

doiminat0r36001 votes

Who cares if you delay damage on a support?

Sighstone = more vision which keeps them alive over just a little bit of extra damage.

Aptest2 votes

You bring up an interesting idea, and I wish you'd try this in ranked, and come back with an answer on whether this is it is better.

In normals I see a lot of casuals playing against you. People who don't really care about the role and don't tryhard. In addition a lot of opponent supports you beat simply on skill differential.

I would like an answer. Can you do 10-20 games with this, in ranked, and say how it went?

Paquay2 votes

Pfft, this one is easy. Support main? Sightstone. Autofill support? Do whatever you want.

Although, I guess if you're autofill you're probably not using Sona anyways... unless of course you want to morale support your team with tha sick beats.

Sonasaurous2 votes

I main AP Support Sona. Every game I build item 2045 and item 3092, and I can still burst people down without item 3100 (which I personally never buy on Support Sona anyway). Typically my final build is item 3092item 2045item 3504item 3107item 3111item 3174. Works for me just about every game.

Aquafuge1 votes

How much more effective would your AP Sona be with a heads up advance warning about the incoming to destroy bot lane, as opposed to having to just react as the enemy jungler just appears

IA9hRfpP5q1 votes

Sona Support Path

1 - Pick Sona and buy item 3098 2 - Save Gold 3 - item 3089

PS: No sightstone required. Just drink coffee before playing Sona because she's really fun to.. pla..zzzzzz.... ResidentSleeper

RedCyclone1 votes

I have fun with AP Sona, but not with full support Sona

AP Sona is about making shit happen and anything can pop off at anytime due to how aggressive you are

serenity71 votes

In normals you can get away with not getting a sightstone on Sona and win by doing a lot of damage because the enemy may not know how to respond. In ranked you will be punished(by the enemy, not your team flaming) for not having sightstone. You are putting yourself at a disadvantage, early game vision is so important. You won't get any snowball rolling if you can't avoid ganks. Just get sightstone and win lane by playing better than the enemy. -from a 200k mastery ap sona player, not a salty adc

Icedragonsoul1 votes

It actually depends on how the game plays out... If against a passive til 6 jungler or we have a strong advantage, you can skip the early sightstone. However around mid game the objective control is crucial which brings sight-stone under consideration

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Just because some edgy and probably egotistical "high elo" Sona main doesn't build one, that doesn't mean you don't either.

I mean, don't complain when your team is dying because you don't have a sightstone with you. Or just get item 2301 and call it a day, it is literally Riot's gift to people who have been complaining about slot issues.

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