True stealth.

AR URF··1 votes·410 views

I'm wondering what you all think about true stealth. I know that my experience with it has not been the best especially when facing Akali. The thing with Akali is that I feel like she only needs item 3146 or evenitem 3145 for that early game carry. Her shroud is what gets me every time because when I play an immobile champion for example like Ziggs she can just throw down her shroud. Now before some updates I was able to play TahmKench and throw down item 2055, formerly known as vision ward. And was able to continue to harass her and take some damage myself. Now going back to immobile champions like Ziggs ,Veigar , Karthus etc it's harder to harass her because she can just ult out of her shroud, attack, go back in her shroud, attack, ignite, attack, and flash away when needed and get the kill a lot of times. also she has amazing roaming potential, Now that champion is not my only problem I have problems with shacos jack in the boxes where you can attack it visible, but not when it's invisible and when it fears you it does massive amounts of damage.

Now please understand that this thread is not a QQ thread, I just feel like it's not a fair fight with this kind of harass from enemy champions. I mean I'm still stoked for mid season when tanks can finally do their roles and not having damage and be tanky at the same time(if I'm understanding that correctly). Anyway I'll take all your thoughts even if you're trolling. Also please feel free to ad your counter tips for such champions.

4 Comments

LostFr0st1 votes

The champs you listed have ground targeted aoe; when you hit her it'll shimmer, hinting at her position.

Brutalitops011 votes

Ziggs: Lay down your E in the shroud, any time she hits a mine, she'll shimmer. Karthus: Turn on your E. Any time it triggers damage, she'll shimmer. Veigar: Put a stun wall around her shroud and stand outside the stun wall. If she tries to dash through the stun wall, she'll reveal herself and get stunned and the dash will get interrupted. Proceed to fuck her.

Ralanr1 votes

Personally I think the intention to make stealth as it is now was good, but it wasn't executed well. Not the actual stealth, but the balancing around stealth.

From what I understand, the purpose of allowing stealth to not be revealed was to make it a balance lever for those champions. They were balanced around their stealth being unable to be revealed, but it doesn't feel like it since (at least to me) they would get a decent damage drop to make up for such a mechanic. That doesn't feel like the case. Instead it feels like they have no counterplay (Vayne in particular) that we can adapt to.

Camouflage imo works fine because it has a weakness of being relatively easy to reveal with actions by your opponent. Not stealth/invisibility though. I guess this is why invisibility has a much shorter duration, but I don't think that's the only way you should have balanced invisibility (and if probably isn't. I don't know everything).

acehole761 votes

hit w on ww know where they are :)

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