he's either a troll pick or he takes over the game
we had a brief reprieve from this guy but now he's back to 40% pick rates and it's probably going to climb higher
why is he never in the average?
sourcing http://lolalytics.com/champion/Lucian/ as my stats for him
ZT Xperimentor26 votesBecause he's a generalist; he can waveclear well, has enough power to kill, plenty of mobility, decent poke at range, combo potential to do about anything a marksman wants to do.
Ralanr1 votes[{quoted}](name=ZT Xperimentor,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=quZeEsE2,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2017-03-26T14:33:19.154+0000)
Because he's a generalist; he can waveclear well, has enough power to kill, plenty of mobility, decent poke at range, combo potential to do about anything a marksman wants to do.
It occurs to me that his W feels like a bunch of extra bonus for him. He doesn't really use it much unless he's AP since the base damage looks like complete crap.
ZT Xperimentor4 votesIndeed, though it still gives him the auto-reset bonus from his passive I believe.
Ralanr2 votesI think all his abilities do.
50000000000000008 votesWhen attacking towers, Lucian players literally shoots his W in a random direction instead of the enemy minion wave. That should say something.
Aimléss2 votesIt gives a speed boost too. One of the only uses of it besides procing the passive.
DunkinNoobs3 votes[{quoted}](name=ZT Xperimentor,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=quZeEsE2,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2017-03-26T14:33:19.154+0000)
Because he's a generalist; he can waveclear well, has enough power to kill, plenty of mobility, decent poke at range, combo potential to do about anything a marksman wants to do.
This is stupid. Lucian is the exact opposite of a generalist, all he does is do damage at short range while being mobile. He has no team utility. His range is short. He has no real poke outside of his ult. Literally all he's good for is dashing closer to ranged champs and outbursting them or running away from melee champs.
ZT Xperimentor1 votesShort ranged? I've seen him bully vayne, draven, and quinn with ease. Lack of poke? Just requires a bit of forethought & skill with his abilities. All he's good for is dealing damage? That I agree with, however he still can get by in teamfights without peel, thanks to his spam-able mobility.
DunkinNoobs1 votes[{quoted}](name=ZT Xperimentor,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=quZeEsE2,comment-id=000a00010000,timestamp=2017-03-27T14:13:59.996+0000)
Short ranged? I've seen him bully vayne, draven, and quinn with ease.
I don't see how that doesn't make him short ranged.
Lack of poke? Just requires a bit of forethought & skill with his abilities.
Calling his Q poke is a bit disingenuous, don't you think? It's not like you're ever going to use it that way outside of lane. And his ult, while decent poke, is hardly the best way to use it.
All he's good for is dealing damage? That I agree with, however he still can get by in teamfights without peel, thanks to his spam-able mobility.
As can other mobile champs. Vayne is better at it, for example.
ZT Xperimentor1 votesJust saying he's not the shortest ranged marksman, but still more reach than most of the champion list. I've seen some skilled ones use his Q in team-fights to nail the back line when his ultimate wouldn't; you're also overlooking his W which is longer ranged and aoe. Vayne was broken from the vision 'update'.
OverpoweredSoap17 votesLightslinger reducing Relentless Pursuits' cooldown tends to make him too mobile over half the time imo.
At least when I played the game more often anyways.
Mannny2 votesmake him too mobile over half the time imo
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OverpoweredSoap8 votes
Vayne being an issue with her mobility doesn't mean Lucian can't be an issue with his too.
Eedat13 votesBecause he's a ton of fun to play. When he's viable his pick rate goes nuts
PrinceOfStorms10 votesExcept his winrate doesn't drop as a result, which means at least right now he's busted.
Eedat8 votesThen you must also agree Ahri is broken?
NineTailedMystic7 votesConsidering Lucian has double her pick rate, I think he has a slightly larger issue.
Eedat2 votesLucian could use a small nerf tbh, but so does Ahri.
NineTailedMystic2 votesAlready talked about it plenty on the boards. Q MS or R CD.
PrinceOfStorms1 votesI do. Ahri is busted and needs a nerf to actually give her weaknesses. Much like Orianna, she doesn't have any.
Eedat4 votesOrianna has weaknesses. No mobility and extremely telegraphed damage. Orianna is the shining example of a balanced kit. Any problems with her ever can easily be solved with minor numbers adjustments
Dominick Destine7 votesADCs in general tend to be this way.
It is rare for a patch era to have a balanced ADC roster...
Big Lincoln9 votesI still think it's because they have 0 competition
LordOfTheLeague1 votesLike send him cassio with her grouding and ulti to counter his just to see.
Sire Hippington5 voteshigh mobillity, pure damage no utillity, mix of burst and dps, most of his output is pretty reliable, so yea, where is not much specific he offers for a team, so whenever he is good enough to be played, he is so because he just deals a shit load of damage for his mobillity.
Also, mobillity, solokill potential and overall high damage is always a combination that makes for a very high playrate even if he's not that insane powerwise if atleast decently strong.
Also adc in generall, there is still not so much difference between them, so usually the ~3-4 best adc share 90% of the playrate cause there is little to no reason to pick anyone else on that position. There's prettymuch always atleast one adc with 30%+ pickrate...
Annoxis5 votesBecause he is selfish. The only thing he brings to his team is a movement speed buff if his allies manage to hit an enemy marked by his W. Other than that, he is completely selfish.
Consequence : if he is not strong enough to lane bully his opponent and snowball, he is not viable.
Ahristocats3 voteswhat's your thought on it?
Big Lincoln2 votesim tired of him being in every single game when he's not shit
he's fucking irritating to play against as 
but at least nobody's figured out lucian tops dumpster illaoi
Big Lincoln2 votesand it's apparently okay for him to have these stats for a while just like jhin and lee
if anyone else pulled this shit off they'd be slammed into the dirt with nerfs
Ahristocats3 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=quZeEsE2,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2017-03-26T12:12:54.266+0000)
and it's apparently okay for him to have these stats for a while just like jhin and lee
it's not, he's broken right now we went from jhin vs varus to ezreal vs lucian and lucian's niche makes him difficult to balance
he's THE mobile ranged marksmen, he can dash without condition on low cd (something like 1 or 2 seconds) gets bonus movement speed combined with phage, kalista on the other hand can only dash if she hits a champion (not saying she's not cancer just that lucian is unique)
and when you're a mobile ranged champion it becomes impossible to play against you because you're ranged AND you're mobile making melees saying goodbye to playing the game IMO lucian cooldown refund on E should be reduced if he took damage in the last X seconds
Big Lincoln5 voteswouldn't be an issue if he fell off harder tbh, especially with how obnoxious he gets mid/late if he didn't go 0/8 in lane
but falling off in usefulness is apparently only okay for melee lane bullies hehe 
Ahristocats3 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=quZeEsE2,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-26T12:22:56.944+0000)
but falling off in usefulness is apparently only okay for melee lane bullies hehe
Miss fortune laning phase was nerfed LOL, she's garbage now due to this with 46% win rate though i agree on HOW DUMB her Q was when it hit you while you were behind a minion they buffed her in last patch because they admited they went too far
YoungSirJ0ey1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dr Sona x Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=quZeEsE2,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-26T12:19:16.553+0000)
he's THE mobile ranged marksmen, he can dash without condition on low cd (something like 1 or 2 seconds) gets bonus movement speed combined with phage, kalista on the other hand can only dash if she hits a champion (not saying she's not cancer just that lucian is unique)
Vayne has a conditionless dash on a 2 second CD, hard CC, and a longer auto range. Lucian is not THE mobile marksman, he's just the one who relies on abilities more than autos.
Ahristocats1 votesit's not 2 sec if she doesn't hit she needs to consume the buff
YoungSirJ0ey1 votesAnd if Lucian doesn't hit anyone, his dash is on a 14 second cooldown, and while he does build CDR, its reasonable minimum cooldown is 8.4 seconds. Vayne's is on an effective 9 second cooldown if she doesn't hit anything. The difference is minimal. And don't forget that that assumes 40% CDR for Lucian, which will likely take him 2 items + boots, while Vayne gets to 9 seconds just by reaching level 9, assuming she levels Tumble first. Also, Vayne has a higher auto range.
Ahristocats1 votesnever said lucian E was on low cd if he didn't hit
they both have low cd dash in combat, but lucian is more mobile out of combat, he builds cdr his dash range is longer and can go through walls
YoungSirJ0ey1 votesSure, you didn't, but it was implied, because otherwise you're just pointing shit out for the sake of it.
And Vayne is far more mobile in combat. Lucian needs to use a full rotation and land every passive shot on a champion to get a dash cooldown slightly longer than Vayne's, and that's assuming max CDR. His abilities have nowhere near short enough cooldowns to dash as often as Vayne can.
But that's not the point, the point is that he is not THE mobile ranged marksman. There are at least 3 others that fit that description. He's THE mobile short-ranged caster marksman, sure, but that's a stupidly specific niche.
Skias1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=quZeEsE2,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-03-26T12:11:21.884+0000)
im tired of him being in every single game when he's not shit
he's fucking irritating to play against as
His kit is balanced on a razor's edge. His mobility is too extreme when combined with his passive. Once he gets ahead, his passive is pretty overwhelming.
Salron3 votesEven when he was considered garbage, he still had something like a 10% pickrate He's just really fun
Royal Bard2 votes2 things: he is fun to play as others have mentioned the fact that he is short range and super mobile means that he either can duel you in his range or he cannot. This leads to either snowballing or feeding, a small push can go in either direction
Violent Hunter1 votesThe problem with Lucian right now has nothing to do with his kit nothing to do with his damage numbers. Blade of the Ruined King is fucking op. That's all there is to it. Ashe can rush and its dumb. Tristana can rush it and does better with blade. Blade is the issue right now.
SpecterVonBaren2 votesExcept the op is talking about how he ALWAYS comes back and dominates like this any time he is viable. You can only say itemization is the problem for the same champ so many times before the excuse no longer works.
Bouncemaster Zac1 votesthe new bork is broken as shit on him, so there's that
Mostro Gallo1 votesThey need to revert the BotRK changes imo. It made it basically godly for ADCs but lackluster for anybody else who'd build it. Hell, I even saw an Ezreal with a bork in my past couple games.
Weight of Law3 votesYou make it sound like Ezreal is not supposed to build a BotRK ?
It Hertz When IP1 votesI mean... he's not, not really. BotRK is supposed to be a tank-killing item, and Ezreal is not a tank-killer, he's an AD caster whose Q for God knows what reason procs on-hits.
Rhai1 votesEz builds it for the attack speed to synergize with Muramana and for the on-hit with his Q.
ChaoticPinecone2 votesEzreal isnt REALLY a tank killer. If you want the numbers we can work them out, but I'm pretty sure a standard ADC with a crit build would kill tanks a lot faster.
Its just that Ezreal is an ADC, and all ADCs are "supposed" to be tank killers once they get their items. The real test is which of the tank killers can kill tanks the fastest. A real tank killer like Vayne or Kogmaw with a crit build + BOTRK shreds tanks a lot faster than an Ezreal can.
Ackelope1 votesBecause of the fact that his Q procs on hit, he builds BoRK. He find himself building differently from your average AD caster frequently because of that. Instead of going for lethality and flat AD, he tends to stack a bunch of on-hit effects and some AD because it works well with him.
It Hertz When IP1 votesThat had me really confused, because I have never seen an Ezreal build BotRK. Ever. Even though Champion.GG confirmed it's on his build.
Then I remembered I'm roughly in low Silver.... Apparently Ezreals don't build it down here.