So Ornn is allowed to have a malphite/kalista ult in his base abilities?

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I am astonished that people actually call this champion bad or weak...

Do you have any idea what kind of team fight initiation and chain cc this guy is capable of? I can't wait to see pros abuse him as a Kalista oathsworn for that triple AoE knockup......

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Sp33d Zer02 votes

Are you saying that Kalista ult is just a knock up? Because her ult is completely different from anything Ornn has other than the fact that it a knock up.

Her ult can be used to save a teammate who gets caught or dove on, and allows that teammate to be in a pseudo stasis. It is also much faster than Ornn's ult. Ornn's ult has multiple damage components, applies the brittle debuff, and has a much wider range. If you're talking about his E, it requires a wall exist for him to slam into, which means it is useless in an open lane unless the enemy groups around his Q

The Storm Dragon1 votes

I am astonished that people actually call this champion bad or weak...

He does zero damage and only really has CC near walls. Yeah it's a team game but if you can't even wipe your own ass without half the team there to hold your hand then you aren't going to be very useful outside of very high level play and probably not even then.

SEKAI1 votes

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He does zero damage and only really has CC near walls. Yeah it's a team game but if you can't even wipe your own ass without half the team there to hold your hand then you aren't going to be very useful outside of very high level play and probably not even then.

To be fair, unlike Poppy, Ornn can create his own "wall" via his Q and its pillar. It's small, but it does the job too.

His ulti also doesn't need walls, but that's a different thing to talk about.

The Storm Dragon1 votes

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To be fair, unlike Poppy, Ornn can create his own "wall" via his Q and its pillar. It's small, but it does the job too.

His ulti also doesn't need walls, but that's a different thing to talk about.

His ult is virtually the only good part of his kit- and it's really good. I disagree with OP about it being hard to land. The only hard part is if the enemy team is smart and CC's Ornn so he can't get the second hit off but that's just counterplay as opposed to a flaw in his kit. The rest of it is just bad though. Q is too slow, W could use a longer duration and max HP damage, and E... well, E would be fine if Q was faster.

Catastrop1 votes

I agree, nerf Diana, she has Ori ult on a basic ability.

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