Mage items need nerfs (speaking as someone who mostly plays mages)

Dasdi96··5 votes·920 views

Even I agree ap itemization is way overtuned right now. You get 33 flat pen for 2.6k gold, and it's not like lethality where it only reaches that point at level 18. Mana is a non issue when item 3802 is finished, and it is 99% gold efficient without the cdr or the passive and the fact that the meta mages have very little mana costs to begin with so they can spam spells off cooldown. I suggest the following changes to the worst offenders.

item 3020 magic pen decreased from 18 to 15 item 3802 cost increased from 1300 to 1400 item 3285 ap decreased from 90 to 80, base proc damage changed from 100 to 49-100 based on level item 3116 cost increased from 2600 to 2900, hp increased from 300 to 450, ap decreased from 90 to 70 (this is supposed to be a utility item, not a cheap high ap item) item 3135 cost increased from 2650 to 2800, magic pen reduced from 40% to 35% (in line with ldr) item 3102 cdr removed, ap reduced from 75 to 60, spell shield cooldown reduced from 40s to 30s, now builds out of item 1057 and item 1026 (I wish building 40 mr in lane isn't a waste) item 3157 cost increased from 2900 to 3200, cdr removed, ap increased from 75 to 80, armour increased from 45 to 60, now builds from item 1026 instead of item 3108 item 3303 line: tribute damage removed

I also think the bruiser itms need nerfs, specifically item 3508

6 Comments

Fízz v22 votes

You get 33 flat pen for 2.6k gold,

Which also gives you almost no AP at all and you have to give up boots like item 3047 item 3111 item 3158 for penetration, unlike AD champs

boricCentaur12 votes

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Which also gives you almost no AP at all and you have to give up boots like item 3047 item 3111 item 3158 for penetration, unlike AD champs

Yeah ad can't give up something that can't get since there is no pen boots for ad and the reason ap champions build pen boots is it most of the time better then the other options since most boots give defense or ms mages do not need those stats since most mages want to do damage like if you're a fed zed none of the boots are going to help you since you do not want to build defense you want to keep your damage up whereas a fed akali can get pen so she does more damage.

Fízz v21 votes

Most AP champs would love to get defensive boots tho, but they cant really because more than half of the flat magic pen available is on boots. A Zed or Khazix is a lot harder to kill with defensive boots, and they dont give up anything for it because all the pen is already on their core items.

Noor Sakata2 votes

Is this a troll post or what I mean , if mage items had to get nerfed, then that means literally all other items in the game too to decrease the damage overall from all sides which I don't mind , but nothing will change about the damage , which means most of those changes are horrible.

FOR JUSTICE2 votes

Stop watching hash, its bad for your logical brain.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

I'd be ok with it, if other classes got their damage nerfed as well.

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