Veigars Instastun was toxic and lacked counter play.
Meanwhile support Annie was taunting me all game by throwing tibbers on me and nuking me to 20% late game with just

Meanwhile support Annie was taunting me all game by throwing tibbers on me and nuking me to 20% late game with just

18 / 17 / 16 / 15 / 14 1.5 / 1.75 / 2 / 2.25 / 2.5
120 / 100 / 80 1.25 / 1.5 / 1.75
Annie doesn't have to stun with Tibbers. And I'm sure I and every other veigar player would have taken a reduced stun duration over this delay crap.
So what, you're comparing Annie's damage to viegar's stun delay? does not compute
They claim Veigar had no counter play due to his point n click stun and burst damage. Meanwhile Annie (and more) have that exact same style. Annie is just the best example because they have a similar play pattern. Immobile stun then attempt to 100-0 The other skewed part of this is that Annies stun takes 1 day to Master while Veigars had to actually learn and practice to land it reliably.