At least 2 people teamed up with my ADC and said I was a dick for not letting him play Jhin in a ranked game. All saying they were going to report me. This can't be allowed. Get rid of week 1 new champions in ranked ffs.
shyv31 votesin normals? yeah, kind of a dick move to ban who your team wants to play.
in ranked? fuck that guy, you definitely did the right thing. wouldn't want a first time jihn fucking up my ranked game either. can't blame you at all.
Top River King5 votesPrecisely. I was in champ select for a normal, as support, and put 
as my pick intent. My ADC proceeded to ban him, saying he didn't want to play with a Fiddle support. Everyone else started giving me grief about the choice too, saying they wouldn't want a Fiddle support either, and that I should stop being "a little bitch" about my ADC banning the champion I intended to play. I don't care what crazy shit you're looking to play in normals. Wanna go AP Jhin jungle? I'm still not banning Jhin, because I'm not a douchehat. I'll probably ask you to reconsider, and will probably dodge if you don't... but I'm not gonna troll you by banning him.
Ranked, however, is a completely different story. If someone bans a just released champion, I wholeheartedly understand. Riot needs to make it so new champions are off limits for some time frame in ranked. Likewise, if you're looking to try something else that off the wall in ranked, I can understand banning it as well. I'm not saying you ban stuff like Teemo ADC when someone has it as their pick intent, but AD Teemo jungle? I wouldn't report you for banning Teemo then.
NichtHurz4 votesWhen it comes to seemingly weird picks in your team you should check your teammates match history to be honest. There are people who excel in playing champions completely different than others and if you can see that your mate was successful and is experienced with his choice it still is a bad move to ban his champ.
shyv1 votespeople never trust my taric mid :^(
admittedly i have no idea what to build on him but it always works out somehow
PROJECT Katarìna1 voteswent jhin mid finally had to get zhonyas cause of rengo xD I did big dmg so much focus
Supreme Senpai692 votesI'd sooner ban a champion than dodge. If you're going Cass jungle, I'm banning Cass in the hopes that you dodge. (Happened today.) If you want to go Cass top be my guest, if you want to go AP Kogmaw that's fine, but some things are just doomed to fail from the start and I don't see why I should eat the leaverbuster while you mess up the next person's game. :/
Borky Borky Bork1 votesThis is why I don't list my preferred champ before bans. If they ban my champ and didn't know I wanted it then no sweat but better than troll bans 
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LaughingStapler20 votesI don't think it's reportable but it's a huge douchebag move and very arrogant. If you have such an air of self-importance to ban the champion I want to play on purpose, I'm probably first timing something just to spite you.
ValyrianBlade3 votesI had a ranked game today where I felt the same way. Team's first pick wanted Jhin. I looked him up and noticed he had never played Jhin before.
I hovered to ban Jhin.
He and two others said please no - so I didn't. If my teammates hadn't said anything, I would have. Either way, he used up first pick on Jhin, and the enemy team got Mundo + Graves and steamrolled us.
RAT IN GAME UwU 11 votesI don't think it's reportable but it's a huge douchebag move and very arrogant. If you have such an air of self-importance to ban the champion I want to play on purpose, I'm probably first timing something just to spite you.
it's really not, and judging by your downvotes, those reading this don't agree with you either.
LaughingStapler12 votesit's really not, and judging by your downvotes, those reading this don't agree with you either.
I really don't care whether they agree, it still definitely is. Someone on your team is trusting you with information that can help your ban phase and team comp. Instead of working with them, you punish them by banning out exactly the strategy they wanted. It's pretty scumbag behavior but not against any rule. I can get a million downvotes but I'm still right. Consensus is a sign you're right but not an absolute proof of anything. By basic moral reasoning, it does not add up to good behavior and seems like a breach of trust.
CerebralKnight17 votesNo it's a dick move to first time a champ in ranked then feed and cost your team the game in a ranked for people actually trying. That should be in normals if you want to practice a champ.
PrometheS4 votesit's really not, and judging by your downvotes, those reading this don't agree with you either.
The downvotes were probably more about the first timing another champion out of spite for the ban imo.
RAT IN GAME UwU 2 votesThe downvotes were probably more about the first timing another champion out of spite for the ban imo.
i'm talking about the guy saying it's a dick move to ban a new champion week 1 that they're out.
Wickedfates2 votesbut thats the thing right, this game is filled with all types of players, and while many people would be ok with someone banning their preferred champ i think we can mainly agree that there are also many players out there who would "take revenge" for something like that...
i totally understand what they are doing with the ban, but up or downvotes are indication of very little in the game
Urgonnalearn2day15 votesOP did the right thing; sorry.
"Oh but he could be a natural" oh shut the fuck up; we're not that naive.
IGotScuttleCrabs14 votesSo me not wanting to watch my adc stand there reading his abilities overtime he goes to level one is a D-Bag move?
LaughingStapler12 votesSo me not wanting to watch my adc stand there reading his abilities overtime he goes to level one is a D-Bag move?
It's pretty bad sportsmanship to ban something your team actually requests and it makes people less willing to even communicate with you at all.
ToxicOrRito 12 votesIt's pretty bad sportsmanship to ban something your team actually requests and it makes people less willing to even communicate with you at all.
It's not a "team request", it's a selfish and stupid request of someone wanting to roll a brand new champion they barely understand into a ranked match.
Aeszarck2 votesYou don't know that. The person may have played lots of matches earlier in the day or have already played thirty matches in the PBE.
Alphadef6 votesAnd he could (probably more likely) not have.
Aeszarck4 votesThe first Jhin I played with said that he had played him on the PBE. I'm just giving an example to show that people may not be as inexperienced as you think they are with Jhin. If your team member said that he/she has already played about twenty matches on the PBE and is confident with his or her Jhin skills, would you still ban Jhin? Your presumably experienced teammate has the potential to bring out a champion your opponents may have never seen and surprise them with his kit.
Alphadef2 votesHe could, and that would be nice, but that usually isn't the case, nor do people always tell the truth.
Aeszarck3 votesYes, I realize that. Just giving a potential situation over here, jeez. :/ The guy was calling everyone who plays Jhin in ranked stupid, and I don't think that's right since some may actually have experience with the champion. Playing a champion first time in ranked is stupid, yes, but playing a champion that you know how to play and that people don't know how to play against is smart.
Alphadef2 votesFair enough
4thHorsman8 votesI look at it this way, if you are one of the last 3 players on your team, you are allowed to ban literally any champ that you want. If you hate seeing the enemy have a particular champ, ban them. If you have a hard time synergizing with a champ when they are on your team, ban them. If you simply hate the way a champ looks, ban them. It is your ban to do with as you see fit.
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DrCyanide6 votesComparing a first time on a newly released champion to first time on a champion that has been released before is apples and oranges.
You're gambling that the new champion is OP enough to compensate for those shortcomings if you want to take them in Ranked. And if they are OP enough to compensate, are you really surprised they're banned?
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ToxicOrRito 3 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zn02UnFA,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2016-02-03T05:32:52.402+0000) I did not say it's cool that they pick them. They can both be wrong.
But you did say you'd report OP if he banned Jhin when a teammate wanted to play it ranked. So by your own accord, you'd go right ahead and report any player that picked Jhin in this scenario too, right?
[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
DrCyanide3 votesI think in general, new champions are banned in Ranked to ensure neither side plays them, not to specifically spite your own teammates.
If we assume everyone playing a Ranked game is doing so with the intent to do their best to win, then we have to conclude that those wanting to play new champions in Ranked must assume them to be OP enough to offset their lack of experience on the Champion. Pick intent here basically says "the new champion is OP." If that player wanting to play the new champion is not first pick, then their intent implies that you should ban the new champion. Failing to do ban the new champion is then irresponsible, as you're letting the enemy have a champion your own teammates believe is OP and cannot secure for themselves.
lolptwo5 votesIt's a valid report, It's called griefing.
Blame Riot for not taking him out of Ranked or Norms. Also If you want people to play what you think deemed acceptable. Is it ok for everyone to search up and see you're terrible with Braum ( you are ) and you're now not allowed Pick Intent him until your stats are what they deemed acceptable?
Same thing. You don't know if that person is a natural Jihn player, let him play or dodge.
Lucifurr4 votesIt's a valid report, It's called griefing.
It actually isn't a valid report at all. You can ban Jhins so that shitheads won't be able to feed as much as you please and you won't receive a single punishment for it. Sorry to burst your salty bubble.
KnKitsune3 votesIt actually isn't a valid report at all. You can ban Jhins so that shitheads won't be able to feed as much as you please and you won't receive a single punishment for it. Sorry to burst your salty bubble.
Thats the thing about new champs. First two weeks or so, they're just a walking ban slot. Thats why Riot needs to keep new champs from being selectable in Ranked. Every smart person would ban that new champ, wasting it instead of banning someone many people are already familiar with.
Surgespace1 votesGriefing: is the act of irritating and** angering** people in video games through the use of destruction, construction, or social engineering.
Actually it is reportable, and it's because it's no different than auto banning any other champ that you feed with cough Lulu
Sorry to burst your uneducated teenager bubble
Lucifurr5 votesGriefing: is the act of irritating and** angering** people in video games _through the use of destruction, construction, or social engineering. _
In what way would banning a champion; you know, a built in fundamental feature in draft, be considered any of those three things? Did you even bother to read and comprehend any of that before you went to internet warrior style defend a comment that you clearly lack the context on?
If you want to get technical, anything can be considered "reportable" simply by the fact that you clicked the report button and submitted a report because it fit the description to you of what you desired to be reporting that person for. You asked your jungler to gank your mid lane but they went bot instead? "What a griefer! That does not do the thing that I asked for and it makes me upset! Reported!" You asked for a certain champ to not be banned in champ select and somebody banned it anyways? "That person did something that I did not like! Griefing! Reported!" See how ridiculous that sounds? Never in my life would I report somebody simply because they lolking'ed my name and saw that some of my recent games that I've lost were as Lulu support, and banned that champion because they were afraid that it was my fault that those games were lost for feeding/etc.
Just because you reported somebody for something that you deemed 'reportable' does not mean that whatever you reported is punishable. Banning a champion in champion select, regardless of your intentions for doing so, is not punishable under any circumstances. There is no system to detect that, and no Rioter gives a shit enough to give the handful of babies who complain daily about the same thing the time of day.
Then again, what else was I supposed to expect out of a typical silver?
Surgespace1 votesFalse false and false kiddo.
Pick intent is traceable and the very reason it was implemented was for the very reason people would not ban champions someone else intended to play.
Your comparison to your other reports are infact a straw man argument with no merit to them. As asking someone to do something and them not doing it is different than a built in feature which sole purpose of existing in the game is for the very reason of your teammates not picking your champions or banning them.
A better example would be a support player stealing all of his ADC's CS because that is the way he sees the game to be played. That is infact also griefing. As the support position is KNOWN to be for the very reason of supporting the ADC
I can log onto my Diamond 3 account if you'd like to continue this without your Ad Homimen fallacy , not to mention you're posting on a LV30 account that isn't even ranked.
Boy oh boy, You just keep hitting your head off a wall eh.
Also clearly Riot does give a shit since they are the ones that implemented the system?
How does it feel to be taken to school in a logical argument btw? Good effort buddy
Lucifurr4 votesFalse false and false kiddo.
Pick intent is traceable and the very reason it was implemented was for the very reason people would not ban champions someone else intended to play.
Your comparison to your other reports are infact a straw man argument with no merit to them. As asking someone to do something and them not doing it is different than a built in feature which sole purpose of existing in the game is for the very reason of your teammates not picking your champions or banning them.
A better example would be a support player stealing all of his ADC's CS because that is the way he sees the game to be played. That is infact also griefing. As the support position is KNOWN to be for the very reason of supporting the ADC
I can log onto my Diamond 3 account if you'd like to continue this without your Ad Homimen fallacy , not to mention you're posting on a LV30 account that isn't even ranked.
Boy oh boy, You just keep hitting your head off a wall eh.
Also clearly Riot does give a shit since they are the ones that implemented the system?
How does it feel to be taken to school in a logical argument btw? Good effort buddy
1.) Fun fact! I never said that pick intent wasn't traceable, though. What I was referring to that couldn't be detected were negative intentions for banning champions that people like you would consider "reportable" and punishable. Which aren't punishable.
2.) Okay, that's nice. That doesn't change the fact that banning a champ in draft because you don't want another player to play that champion isn't punishable. Which is the point that I was trying to make.
3.) That example is a proper instance of griefing that can likely be detected and punished by the system, you're correct. However, that isn't the case for banning somebody's desired champ in draft.
Alright. From here on, I feel like this is gonna be one of those arguments where the other person is too short sighted to accept that they said something wrong and aren't going to walk away without trying to drag on the thread for hours in a redundant and long winded circle of their overly technical ramblings just to be redundant and ignorant until I finally decide to walk away.
But what do I know! Not only am I false, but I am also a kiddo! I am all of these things! Because you said so! I am wrong and you are right! You want to know why? Because you said so! After all, you are the true argumenter higher intelligence master deciever deceptive contradictor debating champion of the world! Congratulations! You're Diamond 3 and have been playing the game longer than me when I have never even played a single ranked match? Wow! I would never even think to 1v1 you bro! What a logical argument that was! Yes, you sure have contradictified and decepted my false uneducated kiddo head to obliteration! You won the internet! Congratulations!
P.S
You should totally write a lengthy reply to this about how I have only proved your point of me being an uneducated kiddo dumb headmcgee and how right you are and I'm not because I refused to give in to arguing in circles with you because you are clearly not going to address anything other than irrelevant shit in a desperate effort to try and ignore the fact that I made a clear point that you refuse accept! This is totally not sarcastic in the slightest kappa!
bluebreeze525 votesDude, I had my own friend play Jhin with me in ranked and he fed 0/5 in 15 minutes. New champions should just be disabled in ranked queues.
Only Play Darius4 votesKeep doing it.
ToxicOrRito 4 votesWow, DTNami went and deleted all his posts? Sup with that? Rekt.
AMYS GRAVE4 votesAsk if his attack speed build or his crit build is better. If they don't have an answer then it's totally fine to ban them. You should know the strengths and weaknesses for the build paths for the champion you are about to play in ranked.
JQKAndrei3 votesI like this answer.
JusticeReigns3 votesYou have the right to ban whomever you wish. There was no guarantee they'd get it, and generally players aren't good enough to use the newest character effectively right off the bat. Them reporting you will do nothing, just ignore them.
Big Daddy Husk2 votesYeah, ban him if your team wants to play him in ranked. However, when I just want to play him in normal draft and everyone bans him just because it's new, it sucks. Wish we still had teambuilder, would be happy to wait an hour for a chance to play him.
Tentacle Love2 votesPersonally I'd probably do it myself if given the chance. You get the ban, you ban who you choose. If you want to play Jhin and you just got him, I'd say you should either queue with friends, or don't go into ranked.
Disabling a champ in the first few days is probably bad form. If a high level player actually does pick up a new champion faster then you do, that's not something they should be held back from showing off. And you should definitely get the opportunity to play against Jhin in a serious environment where players seriously want to win.
That being said, I'd say just go ahead and allow them to report players but don't do anything about it. Those guys have serious anger and frustration issues that aren't conducive to a healthy environment and if anything, they should probably get sanctioned or whatever just for wasting the time of everyone who checks out those reports.
All in all; Nothing bad happened here. Move along.
