@Riot Meddler Any plans on Dorans Ring Changes to prevent stacking

Doseqis·6/1/2017, 5:19:46 AM·3 votes·15,013 views

Feels pretty awful when tanks have kill pressure while also having a CC lock, Take Galio for instance his waveclear is insane but comes with the tradeoff of spamming it costing a ton of mana early but 2-3 dorans rings negates this tradeoff and even lets Galio burst enemies in the laning phase.

The item just feels too cost efficient for it's stats comparatively to other starters and as such lets someone who was behind have better stats than someone who invested in item components, now i'm not saying this should be outright removed but i feel like Dorans items shouldn't sell as well as they do someone who opted for this early game pressure can just as easily sell off one to two of them and only be down 480 gold.

Another option is to cut down the mana Regen or AP since champions who are buying these are able to clear waves and still easily contest someone ahead of them with the all in power of stacking dorans.

I don't really have a problem with mages stacking this item as assassins in the mid lane are countered by this stratgy but now that they have banchee's veil as a great anti ap assassin item they don't need to rely on dorans stacking as much. I mind tanks abusing this though, there is no way a tank who messed up and died early should be able to bully as hard as they can with 2-3 dorans.

39 Comments

RiotMeddler6/2/2017, 1:40:09 AM11 votes

We're looking at making the mana on kill unique. Stacking DRings is something we want to be an option in some cases at least, suspect we need a bit more trade off than there currently is though.

LadyRenly6/2/2017, 1:42:53 AM6 votes

...or we could just nerf the shit out of galio, hes literally the only problem case here

Tsukurokami6/2/2017, 12:12:45 PM4 votes

pls rioter don't make ap md any weaker than they are actualy you just will destroy the only way a mid have too compensate an early gank (lvl 3 4), it's already too hard for 2 midlaner too cohexist in one game

Perma CC6/4/2017, 2:53:41 AM2 votes

Or you know... you could make the passive only unique for melee champions. That pretttttty much cuts out most of the tanks abusing the effect. Or you know actually nerf the problem that is Galio.... cause you know theres an idea... actually for once nerfing the thing that is a problem rather then some other small thing so that you can keep the oppression of said broken thing in the game.

zlumpy6/2/2017, 3:42:44 AM2 votes

Can we just have viable mana regen items back again? I actually used to love building chalice on a lot of champs back in the day.

Syndera6/2/2017, 4:22:45 PM2 votes

Just gonna be honest. This change is incredibly unnecessary and frankly, just stupid. I've never heard of anyone ever struggling with the fact that Double Ring is a thing. I assume the reason for this change is a top-lane thing with 3 rings? 1,2k gold for 45ap,180hp,150basemanaregen and 12mana/on killing units. Making this change in order to fix the "3-ring" problem will just hurt mid-lane for actually no reason at all. Like someone mentioned below, just set a "2 Starting items only-limitation"?

Proxy3456/4/2017, 9:52:04 AM1 votes

People have been stacking Doran items since S2 so I don't see the problem here lol

Real Space Druid6/5/2017, 9:05:27 PM1 votes

Literally the poorest option you coulda chosen in order to nerf the few top laners abusing the starting item that isnt even meant for them.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Tokishi6/7/2017, 7:58:33 AM1 votes

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Feels pretty awful when tanks have kill pressure while also having a CC lock, Take Galio for instance his waveclear is insane but comes with the tradeoff of spamming it costing a ton of mana early but 2-3 dorans rings negates this tradeoff and even lets Galio burst enemies in the laning phase.

Or you know...nerf Galio, he really shouldn't be able to 1v3 as easily as he can right now with just a full tank build.

Orangesilk6/9/2017, 11:30:49 PM1 votes

Since we're on the "Murder Cho'Gath" train anyways with the changes to Vorpal Spikes and Thunderlords and now crapping on Dorans ring stacking.

I suggest we make it so Vorpal Spikes no longer triggers Rylais, ulting minions no longer gives stacks and rupture gets a 2 second delay.

The Bad Touch6/12/2017, 6:45:58 AM1 votes

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