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A Few Idea's for Syndra Passive Changes

Perma CC··4 votes·653 views

I had some thoughts for Syndra’s Passive and how to make it stronger. Q: Sphere’s do bonus damage to champions and stay on the battlefield 1 or 2 seconds longer at max rank. W: Syndra gains the ability to target herself with this skill levitating her into the air; she can then jump a short distance dealing damage on impact and slowing. <for this one in specific I think the range of herself cast W would be shorter so her jump isn’t super big. <I also think that mobility is becoming increasingly needed as the meta shifts and grows. E: Would remain mostly the same since a lot of the power that coulda went into this would be shifted over into W. R: I was thinking at max rank the spell becomes a target aoe spell like her q with a larger width. This allows her to burst multiple targets which can help her a lot late game, but also adds a new layer of counter play for enemies as they would now be able to dodge the damage. There are my ideas I thought I would share >-<

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PrinceOfStorms2 votes

All riot has to do is actually give her the true damage on Q that has been on the PBE on and off for months.

Perma CC1 votes

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All riot has to do is actually give her the true damage on Q that has been on the PBE on and off for months.

I agree.

BattleOxe1 votes

Honestly? It would make her totally broken. I uderstand you like syndra, but making ult AOE? Sorry, but not. Atleast not with it's current DMG. You say with meta shifts mobility becomes important, so let's give syndra some mobility, right? What about other champs that have no moblity? Wanna give them too? Just no...

Perma CC1 votes

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Honestly? It would make her totally broken. I uderstand you like syndra, but making ult AOE? Sorry, but not. Atleast not with it's current DMG. You say with meta shifts mobility becomes important, so let's give syndra some mobility, right? What about other champs that have no moblity? Wanna give them too? Just no...

Was just some ideas. :P Honestly though I dont think the AOE would be broken... since it would now be dodgable... you could flash away or us a dash before it hit. And yea I think alot of champs really need some mobility.

BattleOxe1 votes

But, if you have any AEO stun, snare or knock up, it would deal, what, 2000 DMG to everyone in the zone. And honestly, even when you're not stunned, what do you think, how many people would be able to avoid it durring a massive teamfight. It would be a big nerf to her lane and a huge buff to her teamfight I guess. And, you know, it's not the only nuke that's difficult to avoid (Veigars R, malzahar R, Karthus R) On the other hand I agree a lot of champs need some kind of mobility, but a lot of champs are in balanced state because they don't have it. Imagine if Darius or Morde had blink... Hell no!

Perma CC2 votes

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But, if you have any AEO stun, snare or knock up, it would deal, what, 2000 DMG to everyone in the zone. And honestly, even when you're not stunned, what do you think, how many people would be able to avoid it durring a massive teamfight. It would be a big nerf to her lane and a huge buff to her teamfight I guess. And, you know, it's not the only nuke that's difficult to avoid (Veigars R, malzahar R, Karthus R) On the other hand I agree a lot of champs need some kind of mobility, but a lot of champs are in balanced state because they don't have it. Imagine id Darius or Morde had blink... Hell no!

I def agree with some of your points. Again these were just some thoughts that I thought could spawn ideas.

BattleOxe1 votes

Well, yeah, there are ideas, but I honestly think that syndra is in OK spot ATM. Then, with preseason changes, we'll see

Perma CC1 votes

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Well, yeah, there are ideas, but I honestly think that syndra is in OK spot ATM. Then, with preseason changes, we'll see

Riot has already mentioned that her passive is getting buffed in the future. I just thought I would try and share some ideas about it. But yea thanks for your thoughts :D

BattleOxe1 votes

Yeah, they were going to make Q deal 15% bonus DMG to champions as true DMG instead of magic, when it's maxed, but they reverted buffs. They want to buff it again?

Perma CC1 votes

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Yeah, they were going to make Q deal 15% bonus DMG to champions as true DMG instead of magic, when it's maxed, but they reverted buffs. They want to buff it again?

Yea there was just recently mention that they are still working on better solutions to her passive. They said she could use some love. It will be after all the preseason changes are done that they return to focusing on her. A rioter did confirm tho that she is def getting buffs. That's what got me thinking about changes in the first place.

Perma CC1 votes

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Yea there was just recently mention that they are still working on better solutions to her passive. They said she could use some love. It will be after all the preseason changes are done that they return to focusing on her. A rioter did confirm tho that she is def getting buffs. That's what got me thinking about changes in the first place.

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/10/red-post-collection-balance-team-q-2.html#more < scroll down to the part about Syndra. :P

BattleOxe1 votes

Well... I personaly hate facing syndra, just because it's annoying jumping around trying to dodge her Q. Sam goes for Karthus. Luckily for me, not many people play her

Perma CC1 votes

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Well... I personaly hate facing syndra, just because it's annoying jumping around trying to dodge her Q. Sam goes for Karthus. Luckily for me, not many people play her

As for the previously seen Syndra plans that were put on PBE then never returned, ricklessabandonnoted: "Quote: Will you guys revisit options for Syndra after preseason changes settle down? that is the current plan, i believe. we had some work in progress we really wanted to wrap up before starting on our preseason work, but we ran out of time. nothing is set in stone though, so that work is just 'on hold' until we have an opportunity to pick it back up which could technically be a while (or forever), but with luck it's just around the corner." < that was the stuff in case you didnt see the link abouve. :P

Bleediss1 votes

as a syndra main most of these ideas are terrible

every single one would make her broken even if you took the others out

Q: you can now 7 sphere ult anyone with over 20% CDR, this would also make syndra easier to play, which let's be honest when azir is getting reworked because RIOT thinks he's 'too hard for new players,' we seriously don't want this to be the entire mentality behind kit designs

W: syndra doesn't have a mobility spell for a reason, she has enough self-peel with W and E, to where giving her a mobility spell would allow her to spam spheres, W into your face, ult, and walk away, or just W herself over a wall if she's ever in danger, which usually happens if you don't position yourself correctly/ward, again, taking more skill away from the champion

R: making syndra's ult, one of the highest damaging single target spells in the game, AOE, would give her an over 60% winrate, and make her stupidly easy to use, just no

Perma CC1 votes

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as a syndra main most of these ideas are terrible

every single one would make her broken even if you took the others out

Q: you can now 7 sphere ult anyone with over 20% CDR, this would also make syndra easier to play, which let's be honest when azir is getting reworked because RIOT thinks he's 'too hard for new players,' we seriously don't want this to be the entire mentality behind kit designs

W: syndra doesn't have a mobility spell for a reason, she has enough self-peel with W and E, to where giving her a mobility spell would allow her to spam spheres, W into your face, ult, and walk away, or just W herself over a wall if she's ever in danger, which usually happens if you don't position yourself correctly/ward, again, taking more skill away from the champion

R: making syndra's ult, one of the highest damaging single target spells in the game, AOE, would give her an over 60% winrate, and make her stupidly easy to use, just no

They are just thoughts dude... Chill. Who knows could spawn other ideas. :P

Bleediss1 votes

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They are just thoughts dude... Chill. Who knows could spawn other ideas. :P

why are you telling me to chill?

i come to g&b to criticize posts and sometimes make my own thoughts on good balancing decisions, don't expect me to be kind and gentle

Perma CC1 votes

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why are you telling me to chill?

i come to g&b to criticize posts and sometimes make my own thoughts on good balancing decisions, don't expect me to be kind and gentle

Lol. Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you are right? You need to be respectful of another person's opinion. I respect yours and I agree with some of your points but you don't read me saying that your ideas are terrible. Anyways thanks for the thoughts. Later dude.

Bleediss1 votes

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Lol. Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you are right? You need to be respectful of another person's opinion. I respect yours and I agree with some of your points but you don't read me saying that your ideas are terrible. Anyways thanks for the thoughts. Later dude.

just because you don't criticize my posts the same way i criticize yours doesn't mean you suddenly earn special privilege and i now can't criticize your posts the way i want to or deny the idea that i have to respect everyone's opinions (which i have never followed)

Perma CC1 votes

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just because you don't criticize my posts the same way i criticize yours doesn't mean you suddenly earn special privilege and i now can't criticize your posts the way i want to or deny the idea that i have to respect everyone's opinions (which i have never followed)

Oh you're silver 3... explains your attitude. Lol. Bye.

Bleediss1 votes

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Oh you're silver 3... explains your attitude. Lol. Bye.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

addressing what i actually just said instead of insulting me based off of my rank (which is entirely irrelevant) would be a better decision made by you

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

I personally find it fun for unleashed power to become well...unleashed at rank 3. Like look at Darius' gullotuine that is the sort of rad upgrade Syn needs. And yeah some games don't even reach level 16. So I think the trancendant ult upgrade should be somewhat rewarding than a range expantion.

Perma CC1 votes

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I personally find it fun for unleashed power to become well...unleashed at rank 3. Like look at Darius' gullotuine that is the sort of rad upgrade Syn needs. And yeah some games don't even reach level 16. So I think the trancendant ult upgrade should be somewhat rewarding than a range expantion.

See I agree

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