Quinn Buff

Rikari·Nov 3, 2014·2 votes·320 views

If anyone has played Quinn,we know that her damage sucks. BAD . Her major damage source is combining her passive with her E. She starts off with low base damage on everything but her Q,so shes pretty much utility if i truly understand what that word means in league of legends. So what im suggesting is: Give the blind on her Q a duration of 1.6/1.7/1.8/1.9/2s her W a move speed increase of 40/50/60/70/80 Her E a slow duration of 2/2.5/3/3.5/4 with 3.5 ad scaling and Her R a max damage of 300/400/500 with min of 150/200/250 cuz honestly YOUR F@%&ING ADC HAS TO GET CLOSE RANGE to make this worth.kat does this,gets a triple and gets out. let me hear your viable arguments.

10 Comments

Drunk RummateNov 3, 20144 votes

Idk what you're smoking but Quinn does a ton of damage. She's one of the strongest solo laners in the game, actually.

All she needs are a few quality of life changes to fix bugs with her attack animation and her passive and she would be a complete, LCS viable champion in my eyes.

Final GirINov 3, 20144 votes

Obviously you are playing Quinn wrong. She is ridiculously strong. I've seen friends of mine solo bot lane with Quinn. It's kind of scary actually.

Wehrmacht BunnyNov 3, 20142 votes

Yeah, lets make her OP as fuck in the process.

Only thing she needs is a slight damage buff, if that. She has great mobility and utility.

RikariNov 3, 20141 votes

well my silver and unranked friends of which only one of you played Quinn, idk how fed that Quinn was when she solo'd bots buut her damage is rather low. She has to AA and wait for her passive to kick in to start dishing out damage,honestly 2 offensive skills. and honestly,her ultimate is sorta Iffy. Great finisher,high cooldown. however it is close ranged.on the probably adc. her e has the worst damage scaling out there. I build Quinn for high damage but very little comes from her skills. Honestly any AD with a brain can outduel her. haven't seen any arguments from anyone yet.

zozelNov 9, 20141 votes

bro you are wrong about that quinn need specific item when you start with her,Infinity edge and get some armor penetration ,Attack speed and nobody will stop her,I've been playing vayne and i switch to quinn i'm not saying quinn is better but u are safer and it also depend on your support skills,and you don't engage big fight your range it's too little you will die,wait until you get a window and booooommmm,i'm definitely new to this game and i can tell before i was loosing a lot when i play rank game sometime,It's bad supp or jg but with quinn i barely lost game.

KonidiasNov 10, 20142 votes

Honestly any AD with a brain can outduel her. haven't seen any arguments from anyone yet.

You've gotta be joking me... This is a troll post right?

There isn't a single ADC in this game that can outduel Quinn. The only ADC that can survive 1v1 against Quinn is Tristana and that's only because she can ult to knock Quinn away and then W to escape. No other ADC gets the time to do anything when Quinn dives them. I want to note that Trist can't BEAT Quinn in a fight, merely escape.

Quinn beats every single ADC by mid game... easily.

Don't believe me? Go look at my match history... Compare my stats to their enemy ADC. The majority of my games are wins and the majority of my games I absolutely crush their enemy ADC. (obviously I have a few losses due to bad teamwork/whatever but, we're talking about majority here)

RikariNov 11, 20141 votes

It's easy to beat Quinn but people underestimate her too hard to do it. The Blind is 1.5 seconds,short but people tend to keep fighting when its up. The most that people do against Quinn is back off when valor marks them. Jinx can outduel Quinn if she survives the blind,and Her root will disable the rest of Quinn's kit. Vayne is actually decent against her and can win, her knockback is a good answer to the blind.

KonidiasNov 11, 20141 votes

It's easy to beat Quinn but people underestimate her too hard to do it. The Blind is 1.5 seconds,short but people tend to keep fighting when its up. The most that people do against Quinn is back off when valor marks them. Jinx can outduel Quinn if she survives the blind,and Her root will disable the rest of Quinn's kit. Vayne is actually decent against her and can win, her knockback is a good answer to the blind.

Yeah except you have to consider Quinn's ult. You are talking about trading... not dueling. Dueling to me is 1 on 1, all in... and Quinn wins against nearly every ADC hands down.

The thing about the blind... sure, maybe if you get hit with the blind you back off... but typically the blind comes after you've been vaulted... meaning you really can't dodge the blind unless you flash out. It's not as easy as you'd think. By the time you realize you're too close and can be vaulted, it's already happening. You can't let your guard down for a second or you're getting bopped. That can be said for many ADC skills though.

What I'm saying is if Quinn ults and swoops in as Valor... nearly every ADC is dead before they can do anything. Take it from my first hand experience of deleting ADC after ADC as Quinn. She's super effective.

Tell me what you'd do if I ult in on you as Valor and you're an ADC and not Tristana? You aren't flashing away from me... I'd just catch up anyway. You can even hit me with some slows and I will still close the gap eventually. (with a 20 second valor form, I have time) You literally cannot escape unless you can get to your teammates in time. I can even dive a tower because I'm going to delete you with almost no damage done to me, and I can afford to take a tower hit or two.

Jinx's traps are easily predicted and avoidable... I've done it plenty. Typically you know she's gonna try to drop them in between herself and the person chasing her in order for them to run into it... Also the range of the traps is almost the same as Quinn's vault... so guess what.... I've dodged Jinx traps merely by getting close enough in time to vault past them.

If you don't react fast enough, Jinx traps are useless because Valor is gonna be right on top of you with a blind and crazy fast AAs.

When I Quinn I fear no ADC. I played top lane recently and our bot lane SUPER fed a Caitlyn... I mean this Cait had like 13 kills and I had 1-2. I was still able to swoop in and delete her before she could do anything. In fact... that very game we had 2 leavers due to the feeding, and it took the entire enemy team pushing our base and wiping out my other 2 teammates before they could win... simply because I was deleting both their Caitlyn and Katarina every time.

I say all this not to brag, but to warn that if Quinn gets buffed, she will be extremely OP and will become a FOTM champ that everyone is going to be playing... and honestly I'd rather she not gain that kind of popularity as I main the champ and don't want to see her picked/banned in every game.

RikariNov 11, 20141 votes

The big thing about her ult is that aside from it being melee,its vulnerable to kiting. even without a slow,if you hit her often enough,minion aggro,DoT or whatever, a lot of damage will delete her move speed,even lower than usual. Then there is no gap closing. Also if someone saved the chompers for when you vaulted as Quinn you would be rooted, I've seen it,its enough time. Glad to see you play Quinn though,she might actually become popular this week...or nah.

KonidiasNov 11, 20141 votes

Meh... I'm in my ult for like 2-3 seconds during the combat phase...

I'm not sure what you're talking about kiting her ult... She's way too fast to kite anything. You'd get one hit in before she's on top of you. Maybe if you hit her with CC, sure... then yeah she's as good as dead. But no ADC has enough CC to stop Valor from getting to you in the long term. (except Tristana)

Like I said... I can ult in and wombo combo almost every ADC without taking any damage myself... So that means even if an ADC manages to hit me with a slow and kite me... they better kill me in the next second or else I'm killing them anyway. My all in is so strong that I can still win the fight even after taking multiple hits and slows.

Ult > E > Ignite > AA > Blind > AA > AA > BotRK > Ult

Literally deletes 95% of ADCs... even if they are a level or two above me. You can't move, you can't AA, you can't heal, and then when you finally hit me with damage, I use my BotRK active to vamp it right back off of you. Then you try to flash away and my ult gets the cleanup kill. Happens so often it's like clockwork.

The only variable is sometimes the ADC will flash away... which does nothing but lets them survive an additional 3 seconds... because I don't even need flash to catch up in Valor form.

In fact... if I run into a situation where I dive an enemy and they are actually going to kill me, I can quickly flash off for a disengage, wait for my skill cooldowns (still in valor form) and then vault back in and wombo combo them all over again for the kills. I do this often against some stronger melee champs (usually I don't need to flash out unless they lock me up)

So that combo looks more like:

Ult > E > Ignite > AA > Blind > AA > AA > BotRK to recover some HP > fly away for a moment to get skills off cooldown > E > AA > Blind > AA > AA > Ult

That takes care of tankier champs.

Of course for the ultra tanks I don't bother ulting at all... since I can just poke them from range and vault if they get on top of me. Then if they are nearly dead I can always ult in to get a cleanup if they are trying to escape.

The only time Quinn fails is if she ults in on multiple enemies... which is what a lot of Quinn beginners tend to do. They see a team fight, they ult in, they dive an enemy... they hit ult again.. do literally no damage and then get deleted, and immediately think Quinn is trash.

I STILL have problems doing this sometimes... usually when I see 1-2 low health enemies surrounded by full health enemies... I think I can make some sort of pro play, dive in, delete the 2 low health enemies and then somehow disengage... But all that happens is I get hit with a ton of CC and die before even killing anyone.