possible directions riot could take with the jungle role

Dr Dog··6 votes·4,826 views

ive seen a lot of "jg op" circle jerk posts but nothing really giving any solutions or just people who dont play jg at all and dont know what they're talking about blindly asking to nerf things, im gonna give my opinion on what the issues with jg are and some solutions ive thought of and id like to see some suggestions or rebuttals below, anyway heres my take

JG GANKS TOO MUCH AND DOESNT NEED TO FARM JG

now this, i see this wayy too much without understanding of why this is. this is not true fully as not farming jg does set you really far behind, the main issue with this imo is the fact that camps are too easy to take to compensate not giving you as much anymore leading to faster clears and gank reliance to keep up with everyone else in the game because of the long jg timers, in most games one of the jgers snowballs and gets an item lead early making them clear extremely fast and focus on ganking a lot more making it look like ganking is all they're doing when in reality not only are they taking their camps but they are FORCED to gank a lot to keep their lead because you fall off or get overtaken quickly if you spend too much time taking camps instead of pushing your lead in this snowball based meta, my solution would be to buff up camps, make them take longer to clear but give more benefits for the time being used such as more exp along with lower timers on the camp making you have to actually choose between ganking and taking camps instead of being funneled into having to gank

JG HAS TOO MUCH AGENCY IN MATCHES

another problem that people dont seem to realize the cause of, the meta rn is very snowbally so jg naturally is going to get a lot of agency because of how much they can affect the map and get teammates ahead and the meta shifting away from this is pretty much the only thing thats gonna change it heavily, the main reason jg has so much agency though is the fact that by getting and early lead you're able to cripple the enemy jger to the point they might aswell not be playing making the match close to a 4v5 plus jg in general is the role ment to push for objectives so the team with the snowballing jger is gonna get a lot of free drags, towers, kills, etc making the gold difference and lead they have a LOT bigger, some solutions id have for this are things like objectives having more defenses and actually requiring more people to help, most jgers can solo drag very early nowadays and get the ball rolling quickly off of it because dragons and herald dont have enough dmg and turrets being as fragile as they are make ganks more likely to heavily impact the game.

JG IS A FREE ROLE

oh boy this one i see from only people who just dont play the role, in reality jg has a lot more complexity than other roles typically and there are so many things you need to practice and game knowledge needed to play the role well, when a jger gets ahead and shit stomps it looks easy but if you actually play jg you'd realize how much of it is dependent on you abusing mistakes of the enemy and how much you have to pre-plan and think about most of your moves, bad pathing alone can lose you a game and picking up the role isnt as free as it seems once you actually play it

theres a little bit of my thoughts but id like to hear what problems others have with jg rn and how they would go about fixing them, id be happy to answer any questions about what causes certain problems in my opinion too

9 Comments

Metal Janna3 votes

As a support main I get tired of getting more than one gank before I have more than a trinket to ward with. (A whopping 60-90 seconds of relative safety!) I'd see a lot less of them if acquiring wards didn't take ~10 minutes. You know what make wards available sooner? Making people more willing to trade during laning phase. You know what would make people play less carefully? Fixing the damn damage creep. Fix the damage creep Riot!

After that you can fix the anti-vision passive being on a core assassin item that's also popular with certain fighters and marksmen. Players should not be getting an always on super sweeper as a side benefit of finishing their first item, something that happens about the same time I get my ability to drop more than one ward. item 3147

Fix those two things, and many supports will become OP. Nerf the strongest ones (but do NOT buff the weak until damage creep has been reversed entirely).

ff 20 please ty1 votes

these are people who don't ward

Dr Dog1 votes

i mean as a jg if people are warding a lot you can just pick up control wards and a sweeper and you should really be fine

Bronze GOAT1 votes

Your solutions are good, but my suggestion to you is to keep them as the core of your post, rather than adding all of these unnecessary extra counter arguments and stuff. It will surely keep your upvotes and comments more positive in the long run.

Dr Dog1 votes

gotta defend my role lol, but thx ^^ it just annoys me to see so many people that dont play or understand why the role is so strong potentially getting things that arent issues nerfed then having the role go to shit when the meta shifts, kinda like how wukong got gutted when duskblade and stormrazor were the real problems then they just left him to die

Vile Odium1 votes

Disgusting how broken the role is, i remember when junglers were not strong u could actually play the game normally xd, i did a post if u want to check it out https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/0wdFpg6E-jungle-role-is-too-strong-atm

Dr Dog1 votes

you made no actual argument tho, not much has changed with jg since it was "balanced" the only thing that changed is the meta, obviously in a snowball meta the best role is the one that can get your team snowballing its pretty simple really

Hügö1 votes

Tbh as long as laners are dumb you will allways get complaints about how broken jungle is. How often have I ganked top and got a kill and the enemy top laners just tp's directly in the middle of the lane? This has nothing to do with jungle broken it has something to do with realy stupid decision of the laners.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

Can we leave the jungle alone for at least a season? It gets changed the most every year.

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