so nasus, more dmg buffs really?

Dr Dog··93 votes·18,995 views

sry i wasnt aware he had dmg issues, it has nothing to do with how kite-able he is or anything /s if you wanna buff nasus give his ult tenacity and a small dmg reduction its really not that hard to give him buffs to FIX his problems and not just create more of them

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TrikzterzArma55 votes

It's Riots solutation to everything. "JuSt AdD mOrE dAmAgE"

wolf jade36 votes

like the logic "damage is 2 high, LETS NERF TP!"

summoner 14 ????????

Thefrostyviking6 votes

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like the logic "damage is 2 high, LETS NERF TP!"

summoner 14 ????????

Riot just decided they dont want to see TP in pro play as often as they did which is what caused the endless nerf chain.

Apparently ignite was literally buffed to crowd out TP from top and mid.

Dr Dog25 votes

Sejuani is underpowered and needs buffs? lets get rid of even MORE of her cc and give her more dmg, genius

Death by Glamour17 votes

bruisers are the new assasins

tanks are the new bruisers

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

RebeccaUCuber3 votes

and Yasuo is The new tank :D

OHminus1 votes

And assassins are the new ...

HeimerLmao7 votes

Cancer

Oh, wait, cancer takes some time to kill you.

Frog goes moo1 votes

She was underpowered for solo queue. But frequently a ban/pick for LCS. They do stuff like this to reduce competitive viability and increase solo queue viability.

An example would be to look at the galio nerf/buffs.

Bent Pixels14 votes

Nerf that slow though, amirite?

Dr Dog40 votes

as much as i absolutely hate his slow, he needs it to be even semi decent

Terchio5 votes

Yes and no. He needs the CC to land his damage. However, turning enemy ADC into a limp noodle meanwhile is simply not necessary. He can force the 1v1 (I guess), but at least let the guy fight back.

The defense against him is basically to wait out his overwhelming ultimate buffs or magically CC him down as a 5-man. His counterplay to that is to pick a unit and make them helpless to be picked off. However, to make that unit utterly useless meanwhile is not necessary, especially without possibility of dodging it.

Either the attack speed cripple needs to go, or that slow needs to lose a little of its bite. It does not need to be that strong, especially since CDR is core on him already. The downtime ends up being maybe 1.6 seconds, almost down to 1 second with Cosmic Insight.

He's supposed to be a snowball-reliant champ. With Wither's power, it requires a team effort to keep that from happening unless directly countered, and even then, he can farm under tower plenty safely with ease.

Ignika D1 votes

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Yes and no. He needs the CC to land his damage. However, turning enemy ADC into a limp noodle meanwhile is simply not necessary. He can force the 1v1 (I guess), but at least let the guy fight back.

The defense against him is basically to wait out his overwhelming ultimate buffs or magically CC him down as a 5-man. His counterplay to that is to pick a unit and make them helpless to be picked off. However, to make that unit utterly useless meanwhile is not necessary, especially without possibility of dodging it.

Either the attack speed cripple needs to go, or that slow needs to lose a little of its bite. It does not need to be that strong, especially since CDR is core on him already. The downtime ends up being maybe 1.6 seconds, almost down to 1 second with Cosmic Insight.

He's supposed to be a snowball-reliant champ. With Wither's power, it requires a team effort to keep that from happening unless directly countered, and even then, he can farm under tower plenty safely with ease.

the the actk speed cripples goes theres no way he will 1 vs 1 Tryndamere Jax

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

He most definitely needs a strong slow to be able to reach his opponents, and a debuff that helps him duel, but then again it doesn't need to be both almost permament and point-and-click. If there was any way to play around wither, either by giving it a healthy CD or other counterplay, they could buff his teamgihting or early game a bit, so he wouldn't be so one-dimensional.

Elixors1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Dog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oNlG4IWV,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T15:37:12.257+0000)

as much as i absolutely hate his slow, he needs it to be even semi decent

this.

FNC 6ixGOD1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bent Pixels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oNlG4IWV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-12T15:33:54.804+0000)

Nerf that slow though, amirite?

RIOT: Nothing wrong with a good wither. Maybe we will buff the duration to 7 seconds with how kite-able he is and make it spread like Varus ult. Amiright?

Wasteland Wraith12 votes

His ultimate already gives damage resistance in the form of ever growing resistances and I believe there's already enough tenacity in the game to help him. You have legend tenacity, unflinching, steraks, and even merc treds.

This buff is simply to help him as he needs it. Plenty of counters currently and fails to function entirely the higher you go. Ever see what it's like to go against any other juggernaut currently or even bruisers top as Nasus? It's just overly strenuous and difficult.

Doge20204 votes

More people need to hear this. I got downvoted to hell on another post when I tried to explain why this buff helps nasus.

Mokuto Bunshi1 votes

I can agree he needs help... but Nasus is largely into stacking that Q, and straight up doubling it means you can see 40 min Nasus (world breaker) near 20 mins! That's INSANE.

If they buffed him, id expect 6-->8 or 6-->9 not 6-->(6*2)!!!

And again, going back to the general argument, there's already a LOT of damage.

Imagine you playing a bruiser for damage and tankiness... but by 20 mins he IS that, just with no gap closer except maybe a flash. if someone picks you or he somehow gets to you, its over. At 25-30 mins......

ThisName1sDumb1 votes

It's not doubling most of his stacking, only what used to be his +6 stacks, so cannons and champs and towers, that kind of thing. Most of his stacking will probably still come from regular minions which still give +3

Mokuto Bunshi1 votes

thank you

Terchio1 votes

Which means that if Nasus finds his fodder quickly, he can farm champs down and become stronger even faster. This should not be intended. If he really needs more food, it needs to be in modest gameplay, not dependent on his champ-mowing snowball.

Moody P1 votes

damage reduction that doesn't matter until it's too late and more damage so he can look at the nice pretty stack number while he enjoys his grey screen

kargish8 votes

I know how the boards completely lose their shit if they see a number increase atm, but I'd argue that Nasus actually needs this.

Games are scaling faster than they used to, so gaining more stacks on successful cannon and champion kills could helping him not fall behind.

Daddy Ants7 votes

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sry i wasnt aware he had dmg issues, it has nothing to do with how kite-able he is or anything /s if you wanna buff nasus give his ult tenacity and a small dmg reduction its really not that hard to give him buffs to FIX his problems and not just create more of them

He's kite able?

Lmao?

40% CDR and he can more a less perma slow a targets movement speed and AS.

Dr Dog5 votes

not 1v1 kite-able, im talking about teamfights he doesnt even get to impact them because he gets cced to hell as a full melee range champ

Ahris3 votes

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not 1v1 kite-able, im talking about teamfights he doesnt even get to impact them because he gets cced to hell as a full melee range champ

Its called counterplay.

Nea1047 votes

Good job, make low-elo stompers even more disgusting. Surely lot of new players will enjoy the game, and won't quit.

Weiner the Pooh7 votes

Don't you know this awesome balance teams idea of fixing things is to just throw damage at it.

Support 4 Lyfe3 votes

Imagine if Nasus' W was a dash like Trynda's E, my god that would be a nightmare.

Packun Flower3 votes

Te balance team trying to solve more problems by adding MORE damage to the game?

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

Bouncemaster Zac3 votes

Proposing more buffs to his overloaded ult. lol

Dr Dog1 votes

honestly just a band-aid idea, he needs a rework imo

summoner trpical2 votes

He doesn't lol

Jashindo2 votes

I'd rather see him reworked to be honest. He is just so miserable to play against.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

ya know every one is acting like they are giving nasus 100 base ad

they are buffing his stacks on large minions/monsters and champ kills. all are which conditional ... you can deny all of this

Illabethe1 votes

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ya know every one is acting like they are giving nasus 100 base ad

they are buffing his stacks on large minions/monsters and champ kills. all are which conditional ... you can deny all of this

JUNGLE.

Just to clarify: Do you know how much more HP a Sion Jungler has than a lane Sion? Usually about 400 HP by 15 minutes. That's how fast Sion gains stacks in jungle, and his isn't an accelerant that increases his damage speed. P.S. That's before CInderhulk is applied.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

LMAO nasus jungle.

he cant clear for shit.

Illabethe1 votes

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LMAO nasus jungle.

he cant clear for shit.

lol?

  1. DoT E renews item 1039 on entire camps. Plus life steal. Plus spam.

  2. The VERY FIRST CLEAR on Nasus would give him around 74-84 stacks. You think he can't clear after that + a Sheen?

You're delusional lol.

Next you'll tell me Pyke can't clear either.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

yet nasus dont have a game in jungle this patch worldwide

for plat plus elos.

i know they are buffing it from 6-12 but at 6 per stack he would have 37- 42 stacks (half of what you state ) and no one plays it

Illabethe1 votes

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yet nasus dont have a game in jungle this patch worldwide

for plat plus elos.

i know they are buffing it from 6-12 but at 6 per stack he would have 37- 42 stacks (half of what you state ) and no one plays it

The only reason they don't is because Nasus is not as mobile as the meta.

I even run movement speed items on Zyra , because if you aren't playing movement speed, you are a dead weight player, even if you are mechanically skilled.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

ok so him still being immobile dont change due to this buff.

so why would he be more viable jungle cuz of it? unless you want him to afk farm til he gets item 1401 item 3800 item 3057 item 3117 and run predator

thats alot to invest to get extra stacks by jungling him

also if he is jungle he would be weak to invades and counter jungling which would deny him stacking. if he gets put behind by counter jungling/invade he is done for unless you can get your team to stall long enough for him to be a threat.

but then again he spikes in power lvl around 30mins and plateaus til 43 mins where it starts to climb and spikes

and most games dont last that long. nunu, ivern , shaco are 3 junglers i can think off that will counter jungle him so hard he wont get stacks.

Illabethe1 votes

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ok so him still being immobile dont change due to this buff.

so why would he be more viable jungle cuz of it? unless you want him to afk farm til he gets item 1401 item 3800 item 3057 item 3117 and run predator

thats alot to invest to get extra stacks by jungling him

also if he is jungle he would be weak to invades and counter jungling which would deny him stacking. if he gets put behind by counter jungling/invade he is done for unless you can get your team to stall long enough for him to be a threat.

but then again he spikes in power lvl around 30mins and plateaus til 43 mins where it starts to climb and spikes

and most games dont last that long. nunu, ivern , shaco are 3 junglers i can think off that will counter jungle him so hard he wont get stacks.

Why the F would you build Cinder on Nasus......

item 1039 > item 3057 > item 3078 + item 3009

Some junglers you do not finish your jungle item. Nasus doesn't need it. You go right into built items. An early Trinity is all he needs.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

nasus still needs the HP to sustain the focus and damage he will take in team fights

and if he dont go cinder if he goes warrior for more damage makes him less durable

but getting tri and swifties dont really allow him to gank and close gaps easily

hence why he finishes jungle item to get BLUE SMITE for CC and RG to close gaps in this hyper mobile meta we are in.

Illabethe1 votes

Here's my problem:

The buff doesn't help lane too much, but what about JUNGLE Nasus? 12 stacks a friggin camp...... If he goes a move speed build with a Trinity, Jungle Nasus will easily have 800+ stacks a game..... If he's ganking he can easily surpass 1000-1200. That's 1 hit territory. On a 50% reduced cooldown on ult. Penta......

Anchorit Wracaj1 votes

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Dr Dog1 votes

never said he was broken, dmg buffs arent needed because his dmg is fine and isnt a problem they shouldnt be throwing dmg at everyone when we already have a dmg creep problem THAT is my issue, read a post before you comment, and fyi im gold

Anchorit Wracaj1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Dog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oNlG4IWV,comment-id=00190000,timestamp=2018-12-14T20:03:12.458+0000)

never said he was broken, dmg buffs arent needed because his dmg is fine and isnt a problem they shouldnt be throwing dmg at everyone when we already have a dmg creep problem THAT is my issue, read a post before you comment, and fyi im gold

Not comment to you.I was reffering to this Luck of Draw.He was bashing about how "OP" was Nasus,even tho Nasus is trash now. Yeah.I am deffinetly agreeing with ur DR DOG.Nasus does not need DMG BUFF.Nor any champion in this game needs it.Nasus needs MR/armor/health.Even in this mobility/bursty meta even that can't help him.Theres just no place for Nasus in this meta.

Luck øf the Draw1 votes

I wasn't aware that Nasus' intended strategy was to be able to 1 shot any squishy at 15 minutes. Thats enlightening. :P I uninstalled League yesterday and im not looking back.

~1200$ spent and 5 years being stuck in gold.

Good riddance.

Anchorit Wracaj1 votes

Luck of the Draw...must feels bad when ure 5 years and stucked in gold.Lmao. Actually Nasus as a jugernaut is getting one shoted in minute 15 by others,cus everyone shits on him. +he gets zero real buffs.Lmao...48% WR,2% pick rate and they're crying..to the champ that is completly troll pick and useless. Yeah..gl playing him. But quitting lol is good choice,maybe Riot will give us legacy servers back in season 2-4. But yah,nice money spent.Spend it more :)

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