great, fizz got buffed despite almost everyone telling you not to ya went and did it anyway, idc if im a fizz player myself he did NOT in any form need a buff whatsofucking ever, he can one shot just fine as is and now he can just miss his entire combo and auto you twice for the same ass effect, can you leave champions alone and let them actually take braincells to play
Jinzo Torrance19 votesI know, god forbid assassins have negative winrates in a team game
saltran16 votesthe community gets ignored
Good news for teh game health then, and you dont seem to play Fizz based on your OPGG btw
Rayjay Redfang7 votesCheck championmasterylookup, he does play fizz
AirKingNeo3 votestwice last season....
Rayjay Redfang3 votesBased on the op.gg ranked listing. Not everyone plays ranked. I do my placements then stop, but I still play the game for fun. It doesn't mean someone can't have a say on a champion that they play outside ranked.
D357R0Y3R1 voteshe does not
Dr Dog32 votesi only play him on losing streaks for a ez game, im m7 on him and know how he works tho so i do have room to talk about him as a champ and he 100% was fine as he was
MorganFreemanBot8 votesFizz is legitimately weak at the moment.
He needed work. Is this change the work he needed? Maybe, maybe not.
But regardless of how much I hate Fizz, he's not one of the (handful) of champs I'd be legitimately happy to see never leave the gutter.
Blåbæret18 votesFizz isn't weak lmao. The champ is cancer in the same League as 
and 
anyway and SHOULD stay in the gutter.
AirKingNeo7 votes47.57% winrate and 4.87% pickrate isn't weak?
Fízz v26 votesShouldnt bother talking to silver mage main boards about Fizz I supposed LUL
D357R0Y3R2 votesi'm sorry fizz dono that you main a hated champion
Fízz v21 votesmained* LUL oh wait zoe is hated too FeelsBadMan
At lest I got TF, very fun and balanced 2 second stun hehe
Sleepcoma1 votesMage and adc*** they also like to split push alone when against any assassins, they also dont like to build zhonyas for some reason because it's "weak" and does nothing
AirKingNeo7 voteshttps://www.op.gg/champion/fizz/statistics/mid
47.57% winrate, 4.87% pickrate. Sounds weak and could use a buff.
Daddy Ants2 voteshttps://www.op.gg/champion/fizz/statistics/mid
47.57% winrate, 4.87% pickrate. Sounds weak and could use a buff.
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/champion/Fizz/
Sorry, what?
He has a 54.09% win rate in 8.15 so far.
Stats so far are showing he was over buffed.
AirKingNeo2 votes1-day stats aren't accurate though.
Give it another day or two, then we can be sure.
The Nidja1 votes1-day stats don't shift more than 1% tho so anyway you look at it. It's going to be 53% at least.
AirKingNeo2 voteshttps://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/champion/Fizz/
Gotcha, looks like I'm right.
The Nidja1 votesI am wrong good catch. I guess I should of said normally.
Thefrostyviking2 voteshttps://www.op.gg/champion/fizz/statistics/mid
47.57% winrate, 4.87% pickrate. Sounds weak and could use a buff.
Except he like many other assassins can still kill the target while missing their ults as long as other abilities hit by adding in electrolute and ignite, and in fizz's case it's actually super toxic to play against since you have like 2 outa 4 seconds to actually trade with him due to his E.
I mean fine if he was aiming skillshots or something but his E is so easy to land and Q is a targeted spell.....
Like until he cease's to be able to kill someone with only basic abilities+auto attack or two+ignite at lvl 6 then i dont think he should be buffed, ever.
It just becomes impossible to beat him the moment he actually lands the ulti, or stop him from snowballing like hell.
You flash his ulti to the side? Great now he flashed ontop of you and killed you.
He hit ulti? You are dead and nothing can save you until you have banshee+zhonya.
Try playing against him and you´ll know what the heck he is x)
AirKingNeo2 voteseverything fizz does requires him to be in melee range, so most opponents can cc him or dodge even
Thefrostyviking1 voteseverything fizz does requires him to be in melee range, so most opponents can cc him or dodge even
Fizz is mobile and doesnt suffer from minion blocking.
CC him? He will E right through any such thing in lane and jump ontop of his target.
So like unless you constantly stay at a extreme measure of max range you cant really beat him or play aggro into him.
AirKingNeo2 votesdon't use 2 abilities when fizz uses E?
Thefrostyviking1 votesdon't use 2 abilities when fizz uses E?
Thing is, i have to use abilities if i want to do anything.
He can just react to that and smack my face for doing it, which in turn encourages me to not do anything.
Or he just does something like short range ulti-Q-W-E and i die.
LIterally, the only counterplay to fizz if you cant survive his ulti and murder him is to just sit outside his effective range and deny any and all interaction and just shove waves as hard as possible.
Fun and interactive champ right there, punished like hell just by going anywhere near him ._.
Nemrul2 votesSorry, but he couldn't kill without ult on 8.14 unless you hit them like 5 times.
Thefrostyviking1 votesSorry, but he couldn't kill without ult on 8.14 unless you hit them like 5 times.
......I dont quite believe this as electrolute+ignite deals like 30-40% of a targets health.
You are seriously telling me that fizz could not even manage to finish off that?
And yes you have to factor those two into damage calculations in as basically every assassin runs them and trying to not do so will result in outrageously OP champs.
ZephyrDrake7 votescan you give me some proof that the community actually said to riot to not buff him or did you just happen to see a random thread somewhere and instantly assumed that everyone was saying the same thing? because I have yet to see a single thread about people saying that fizz "shouldn't get buffed"
more like "once again riot doesn't listen to the people who have no idea what they are talking about and that's good for the game!"
Dr Dog1 voteslook up fizz as a key term in gameplay, its not hard most people wanted TIME to be given before you jump the gun on them same as after every rework, you wait a bit to see if it balances out and they ignore it and immediatly buff him when he just didnt need one
Nemrul1 votesdude, he has had a 47 percent win rate for 2 weeks. That is plenty of time to learn the champ
Colton1476 votesI am the voice of the community and we want 
buffs.
https://media.tenor.com/images/0e127f8d7a67d1cb5a2cade4dfcac165/tenor.gif
Chess14 votes47% WR
Fízz v23 votesYou dont play fizz if you think like that LUL
he got buffed because he needed a buff.
RyzeTheSmurfMage2 votesYou would defend Fizz even if he was 100/100 pick or ban saying he is weak. You are never gonna say he needs nerfs no matter what.
Akumu3 votesBalance team rushes to buff another assassin! Surprising.
Daddy Ants3 votesBalance team rushes to buff another assassin! Surprising.
https://i.gyazo.com/a2d278eceb952429eba19834818cd335.png
They have a habit of overbuffing champions.
Look at Ahri.
AirKingNeo2 votesmentions ahri because ahri icon
Big funny
My Waifu Vanilla1 votesThe only way he could auto before the patch was with Electrocute+an early sheen+an early revolver+ignite. That's so much artificial scaling that is required for the champion to function as an assassin. Even then post changes his laning phase was MUCH weaker thus causing him to get his like 2.6k gold later and much less relevant.
PaffWasTaken1 votesPeople don't seem to understand that a balanced Assassin SHOULD ALWAYS have a negative winrate by default. Yet, whenever one of those is under 50%, it gets buffed back to 53%+ and beyond and will be nerfed only if the items they use gets buffed
NightlyRogue1 votesWell you see the balance team ejculates every time they buff an assassin
Thefrostyviking1 votesTrue, fizz is at least since yesterday, really too strong.
Played against one, actually straight up deleted him at lvl 2 or something as Syndra even through his corrupting potion because he kept taking hits for no reason.
Then at lvl 5 something he suddenly jumps me when he had 70% health, and actually kills me 100-0 with Q-W-E-ignite+electrolute being untargetable for almost half the time he was attacking.
At 6 he comes back to lane with sheen and boots, throws down a short range ult and instagibs me, was literally nothing i could do but i think that "alright i´ll just dodge the ult next time"
Next time he comes back he has the same stuff but sorc shoes, proceeds to instantly ult but i dodged it.
Then i actually straight up instantly die from E-Q-W
Like.......fine if he landed ulti, fine if he had some skillshots.
But, almost all his shit aside from ulti is either targeted or so easy to land its not a problem, and he is actually not possible to damage directly for half the time he fights.
Like he overkill´s his target so hard with ulti that he doesnt even need it, if they grab some early MR they still die from a short range ulti.
' Fizz is actually super cancerous to play against ._.
And while Syndra is only marginally better, at least she has to land a few skillshots, needs to setup a bit properly and doesnt go untargetable for half the fight.
But what truly breaks both of them is ignite and electrolute, i mean their combo´s both have high damage even before those two right? Add them in and nothing survives.
Fizz is just a bit more aggravating because of his E but while holding my bias back i can only admit that the guilt isnt entirely his x)
floo1 votesWhat's your opinion on the pre-reworked fizz, with the mark? Honestly whenever I got him in aram/urf or played him rarely in normals it felt pleasing to play around the W. But I can see why the burst should be removed. Fizz right now feels weird but is still pretty strong
Dr Dog1 votesi loved him, actually the best out of the assassin reworks, gave him more of a punishing feel for missing and a bit of thought, always prefered it
Jefftiffy1 votesI think Fizz did need a buff, but only on his W. His ult buff was way over the top.
SuckHerWee1 votesriot keeps buffing and buffing and buffing. please. we do not need any more buffs. the stronger you make one character the weaker another gets, creating an overpowered endless cycle of bullshit.
Dr Dog1 votesthats called power creep, that thing peope want fixed but na lets ignore that
