i getting REALLY sick of blantant matchmaking working against you in promos

Dr Dog·3/25/2019, 1:43:05 PM·79 votes·25,934 views

had to try hella hard to get into gold 3, wanna take a peak at my last team? because we had 3 fucking silvers while the enemy had 2 plats and the rest high gold, that match was 100% against me from the very fucking start its a miracle i won that match thank god i camped bot, fun other fact the enemy jg? last season diamond ofc, in my promos, giving me a mostly silver team to get to gold 3 with, what a joke

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RiotKeyru3/26/2019, 6:03:06 PM38 votes

It sounds like you had some rough games there. Looking at the match too, you did super well to help carry your team to victory and definitely deserved the win.

Many players have already said this in comments but what I do want to mention here is that many players use third-party sites to psych themselves out before a game even begins. Visual rankings are NOT 1 to 1 to MMR, which is what matchmaking looks at when creating a team. The system is never actually against you. It works to try to match you with and against players so that you have as close as a 50/50 chance of winning every game, including promos.

Looking at the stats for the game (might be a little off since some have played games since then), the match was fair and even on both sides. The system actually matched that game with your team having a higher % to win.

I want to share this because matchmaking is always a frequent inquiry we get in support where players feel it is unfair but the system works as it is intended to.

Kai Guy3/25/2019, 6:28:06 PM8 votes

You can look at player history and check the average MMR of recent matches on Op.GG. Every player in their history is hovering around the match average MMR. Every single one, it did not spontaneously drag anyone from far outside the MMR ranges.

Its mmr, it does not care about much other then your MMR. It will build matches off current assigned MMR values. The past does not matter, the highest tiers a player has ever made does not matter. The 2 factors to having a functional MMR are going to be the range it considers fair and what EXP considerations if any that are used in building teams. Previous seasons are accounted for thru the use of Soft resets not moving folks to dramatically from a MMR range.

Akali Prime3/26/2019, 12:18:14 AM7 votes

my story: winstreak until i get to my silver 4 promos. lose promos and get hit with a loss streak all the way until im demoted to bronze 2.

have been playing A LOT less since then. im so done with this games bullshit.

Optifreak723/27/2019, 2:24:57 PM7 votes

I don’t know why anyone is even bothering with this. Everyone knows the system is seriously flawed for both ranks and match making. Everyone knows riot doesn’t care enough to fix it.
This season is even more glaring than normal for NA because riot decided to do positional ranks and lp then switched it up screwing everyone that participated in riots new system. They should have either let that go or reset the season completely. The partial fix just created more problems since the didn’t bother fully fixing the issue.

Riot should just admit they screwed this season hardcore. Then go about actually fixing rankings, mmr, and match making.

  1. Fix the way mmr is calculated so it actually includes your personal performance in games (for all rolls)

  2. Just get rid of LP and promos. Use the fixed and more accurate Mmr to determine rank. Really Promos for anything below challenger is stupid. Once you earn your way out of a crappy rank you shouldn’t be held back based on the random luck of a 3 or 5 game set of matches. Also if a player is disconnected, something easy to see with basic programming, In a promo forcing 4-5 it shouldn’t be counted as a loss in the promo series for those trying to rank up. If the dc person is the promo person or duo with the promo person than ya give them that loss in the promo series. It can still be counted as a loss for overall ranked, but you shouldn’t be punished in the promo series itself.

  3. Only let qualified players/champions play ranked. You should not only have to own the champion to use it in rank, but more importantly actually have experience playing that champion. It doesn’t have to be a lot, 3-5k prestige but we should never see a 0 prestige champion being used in ranked play. Also under certain situations if you are under punishment for things like afk or inting you should also be banned from ranked play. Riot would need to step up and actually looking at reports and determining if punishment is justified or not. (Note dodging allowing a remake or redraft is not Afking)

Hethalean3/25/2019, 1:44:04 PM6 votes

Sounds like some plats are demoting soon and some silvers are promoting soon.

Karunamon3/25/2019, 8:20:04 PM5 votes

Can we just nuke the entire concept of promos and be fucking done with it? Your MMR rises and falls according to your wins/losses, not according to whether you get 2/3 wins or losses in a row. As long as you maintain a 51%WR, your MMR rises and the skill of your opponents does. Rank is purely cosmetic south of Master.

What would be better is if the rank was transparent and evaluated in the background on a delay. Riot likes to hide info for no reason, so this is perfect - instead of Silver 4 3 2 1, you'd have "low silver" "mid silver" "high silver", and every handful of games, like 5 to 10, your rank would readjust to match your MMR.

5050BS3/26/2019, 9:49:13 PM4 votes

I just went through Promos (failed) and posted the two games. The board down voted me.

Wont name names.

Game 1 https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3006441684/41759027?tab=overview

One player got pissed at the ADC and afked "Have fun suckers" Another player then said something and another said they would report them so that player spent the rest of the game standing at turrets saying "Ill afk if you report me" basically afking the match.

Game 2 https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3006886581/41759027?tab=overview

Stomped my lane, helped other lanes. Lost because one player would not group, would not help push lanesm would not help get objectivs, when told to group he then ran it down mid 1v5 and died at a key moment letting the enemy push to win.

This is VERY common for my promos (last season I was Promo to Gold 25+ times and almost always got an afker/Troll/feeder/Soft Inter/enemy smurf.