@Riot, don't nerf vayne, she is NOT the problem.

lolipopevelynn··2 votes·967 views

These items item 3147 item 3142 item 3814 are the problem.

Ghostblade and duskblade should have been made melee exclusive A LONG time ago, ghostblade in particular. But you still refuse to make them melee only, and for what reason? Ghostblade has a LONG history of being broken on ranged carries, so much so that you nerfed it multiple times just so it would be less effective on ranged carries, which actually made the melee users who use it suffer. Duskblade has pretty much the same abuse history on ADCs, albeit shorter than ghostblade. I think its about time you guys swallow whatever "know it all" ego you have and just make the damn items melee exclusive instead of nerf champions directly.

For those of you who don't know, Assassin vaynes build, the build that everyone is complaining about, looks like this. item 3006 item 3087 item 3031 item 3147 item 3142 item 3814

clearly you can see the problem here. 1.8k crits on squishy targets because lethality pretty much pierces ANY bit of a rmor they have, and 1.6k crits on armored targets because lethality still pierces a good chunk of armor.

I shouldn't need to go Rammus every time I see a vayne in game.

19 Comments

PermabannedGaren8 votes

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For those of you who don't know, Assassin vaynes build, the build that everyone is complaining about, looks like this. item 3006 item 3087 item 3031 item 3147 item 3142 item 3814

No it doesn't.

item 3087 item 3031 item 3006 item 3072 item 3046 item 3139

This is her meta build.

Marshbouy1 votes

Don't know what the fuck OP was talking about in this post. the item 3147 item 3142 item 3814 build is a noob trap

Ralanr1 votes

Saw a Lucian build these. It didn't help him catch up from behind.

We basically had no damage from him.

Death by Glamour2 votes

The problem is the crit damage of her q

Papa Slothy1 votes

that's not her build

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Um.....not sure what stats you are getting that build from, because that one doesn't show up anywhere. Here's her actual highest winrate build: item 3087 item 3031 item 3006 item 3046 item 3072 item 3139

In fact not even Twitch is building those items either. Miss Fortune is still building item 3142 and item 3147 , but besides that, the APen/Lethality builds have pretty much disappeared on ADCs (although I guess technically Varus is, but that's only in midlane)

RexSaur1 votes

Uh no?

Nobody builds ghostblade or that lethality crap anymore, its garbage, vayne builds crit now + stuff like BT.

lolipopevelynn1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyjsOWGXrV4

didn't want to have to link this, but this is the build I'm talking about, not some copy paste build that you seen on champion.gg

you nerf vayne, and you start seeing this build and her winrate doesn't budge an inch, then all I can say is I told you so.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyjsOWGXrV4

didn't want to have to link this, but this is the build I'm talking about, not some copy paste build that you seen on champion.gg

you nerf vayne, and you start seeing this build and her winrate doesn't budge an inch, then all I can say is I told you so.

Some moron on youtube doesn't decide what the best build is.

lolipopevelynn1 votes

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Some moron on youtube doesn't decide what the best build is.

neither does champion.gg

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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neither does champion.gg

Statistical data is far better than some guy on youtube.

http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Vayne

Notice the build the pros are using.

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

9/1/4, 12.6k and he has two finished builds and boots with a Zeal.

Are you god damn kidding me?

Do you think anyone-- anyone-- here on boards can even remotely compare?

Spoiler, the answer is hell no.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Fuzzi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qXmEEPMz,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-21T05:02:00.496+0000)

9/1/4, 12.6k and he has two finished builds and boots with a Zeal.

Are you god damn kidding me?

Do you think anyone-- anyone-- here on boards can even remotely compare?

Spoiler, the answer is hell no.

I'd casually crush him and his entire family playing Janna jungle in a 1v5 game without my hands actually.

Also, I'm sorry I insulted your e-celebrity crush I guess. I'll be more considerate of your feelings next time.

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

Well, I actually don't know any players except Lustboy, and I regularly disparage the fact that his parents will forever remember him as 'Lustboy.' I suppose different strokes, and all that.

The point I was going for is that the stats are there. Everyone follows youtubers, though and they think it's totally valid 100% of the time, whether they're prepared to play an AD or support Kennen or not.

Vayne rocking that score with that gold and build clearly doesn't need items. She probably ended on 2~3k gold sitting in bank. Her opponents were complete cheese, or else that person has practiced the hell out of Vayne.

I don't think Vayne's that bad. I think she punishes terrible play choices from champions who don't stun.

EDIT: My youtube crush is none of your business and doesn't even play League, thank.

lolipopevelynn1 votes

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Statistical data is far better than some guy on youtube.

http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Vayne

Notice the build the pros are using.

I know you are not blind. I know for a fact you seen the 1.8k crits that build was doing to CHAMPIONS. I know you seen the twitch get literally 1 shot by a AA.

Guy, I know what statistics are, but I really hope YOU know what common sense is.

Skia Asteri1 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyjsOWGXrV4

didn't want to have to link this, but this is the build I'm talking about, not some copy paste build that you seen on champion.gg

you nerf vayne, and you start seeing this build and her winrate doesn't budge an inch, then all I can say is I told you so.

Even that guy has realized Crit is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs5NfMch2zg

LordGeovanni1 votes

true about the items but vayne has long been a problem by existing riot has said they knew that then they let her tumble activate on towers and upped tumbles damge and if im not mistaken on this last one gave her ult more ad

mustafa28811 votes

the problem is with her Q. and might nerf her W as well, since she is a tank destroyer and there are no tanks anymore (not the meta anymore) she will be the assassin destroyer.

HazyCloud71 votes

Nice to see this downvoted into oblivion for spreading false information. She doesn't even build lethality items.

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