why dont people play diana into assassin lanes?

FortisDominus··3 votes·1,473 views

post 6 Diana rapes every assassin assuming she did not lose lane pre 6.

If she gets abyssal she wins vs Fizz Leblancand Katarina if she gets seekers she rapes all AD assassins

I made this because everyone complains about assassins on these boards yet no one ever says how good diana is vs assassins

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PhantomGG2 votes

For playing her as a laner actually takes skill, it's much easier to play the brain dead diana jg, wait till six and nuke everything with the jg item

Cowgirl Ed2 votes

diana actually rapes every champions lol

Masala Chai1 votes

Mordekaiser Corki Lissandra

QQ

MLDzXnRRR2 votes

I've seen too many times Zed to destroy Diana. He will never manfight her, only poke and ult.

FortisDominus1 votes

not true. diana destroys zed lanes unless diana is bad or aleady fed zed pre 6 which is unlikely

MLDzXnRRR2 votes

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not true. diana destroys zed lanes unless diana is bad or aleady fed zed pre 6 which is unlikely

What? How can she touch him? Her Q is the easiest skillshot to dodge in the game.

http://champion.gg/champion/Diana Her winrate in plat + vs Zed is 47 %. She counters him, right, but in bronze.

FortisDominus1 votes

woah calm down since when did the elites on the boards care about win rates? when i bring up how rumble has a 43% winrate people say he is fine regardless. So i still believe zed gets countered by diana regardless of winrates because they dont matter.

FortisDominus3 votes

its sad to see how badly people want zed nerfed on the forums, i dont play zed and i can tell you he is fine as is and only assassin haters want him nerfed

BoundaryBreaker1 votes

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its sad to see how badly people want zed nerfed on the forums, i dont play zed and i can tell you he is fine as is and only ADC mains want him nerfed

ftf ;D In all honestly I do agree with you, but trying to fight zed without specifically choosing a counter still sucks. And this happens far too often in YOLO queue.

FortisDominus1 votes

i dont mean to come off as a dick, but if you truly do struggle against a certain champion, you better expand your champion pool with a champion who counters him. Thats what i did for top lane when i played alot of rumble before he became shit. I learned to play renekton because i struggled vs irelia as rumble.

BoundaryBreaker1 votes

Sorry, I worded that weirdly. Meant to say more like this: Suppose you are 2nd or 3rd pick, oftentimes you'll pick a champ that you really like mid, one that doesn't necessarily counter Zed (i.e Diana) and then they get mid last pick, and OH HEY, it's Zed! That lane is basically insta-salt (For me at least), especially if you are playing a relatively squishy champ.

I really do try to expand champ pool as much as I can, but I am legitimately on the level of DogDookie 7, and avoid playing ranked unless it's with my friends who tend to be just as bad XD.

Edit: Also, how do you feel about Kayle vs Zed? I feel like I've done fairly well, at least until my bot lane fed him like crazy and he insta-gibbed me before I could even ulti.

FortisDominus1 votes

yea kayle is like the best counter to zed. I just dont think she is all that great of a counter until kayle reaches lvl 11 when her ult lasts longer and she has the potential to 1v1 zed or have her ult last long enough to counter assassins.

Yea there will be times when you get counter picked in mid lane. But if you feed, its your fault. You should feel confident in every lane match up when you go into a ranked match with the champion you choose besides extreme hard counters like teemo vs tryndamere (which is just impossible for tryndamere). Thats why i say zed is a very winnable lane match up. If someone picks zed just to counter pick your champion, you should be able to roll the lane unless you make a mistake in lane.

BoundaryBreaker1 votes

Yeah, I usually avoid feeding in those kinds of lanes, don't do particularly well, but don't do horribad either. And seeing that Kayle is a huge counter to zed makes me super happy, she is one of my absolute favorite champs, and the first one I ever bought. As a side thought, isn't Kaye a huge counter to Yasuo too?

FortisDominus1 votes

kayle counters most squishy damage dealers late game because she can use her ult, take no damage, and shit on them. Without ult though its almost impossible to 1v1 champs like yasuo, zed, talon, ect...

They just do too much damage and kayle cant dive out as much damage in a short period of as they can so if you wish to fight them you should have your ult unless you are shitting on them so hard that they cant kill you regardless

BoundaryBreaker1 votes

Yeah, Kayle is very much DoT when compared to the others

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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woah calm down since when did the elites on the boards care about win rates? when i bring up how rumble has a 43% winrate people say he is fine regardless. So i still believe zed gets countered by diana regardless of winrates because they dont matter.

That's why champs that hit 60 % winrate got nerfed (Ahri, Skarner, WW) and were called "broken", cuz winrate doesn't mean anything... Diana vs any other assasin - the first one to get a lead snowballs. Zed can't outrighclick her earlygame and he has no reason to do this. Spams shadows and Q, when she goes oom, she dies. Her lvl 6 all-in is stronger, but Zed is not a champ that manfights, so she shouldn't be able to get him. If she wastes R charge to close the gap, she dies. If he gets hit by the Q+R, she can probably kill him, but he can still outplay her.

Zero Skill Tank2 votes

Yeah well Diana seems to have advantage over Zed, but Zed is so absurdly broken ATM that she still has negative winratio vs him.

Thing is, a Zed has literally 0 reason to ever be hit by her Q, and if she ever goes melee to farm, she will eat Q + E + E from a shadow. Yeah shield will stop some of, but well, Zed is manaless he doesn't care.

X8ViEhkPS02 votes

In the past Diana was notorious for being "Better Akali". But also way back in season 2, and I think in early season three not entirely sure on that part. Diana was the counter pick to Katarina.

And I'm not talking a soft counter, it was a hard counter to the point that Katarina was better off laning somewhere else.

EvilRabbitt1 votes

Kayle does it too. Zilean destroys bot lane. Good champions dont get played often.

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