Why would you kill secondary roles for champions?

Monstermushmush··7 votes·4,511 views

If the current PBE changes go through, then Aatrox and Camille will no longer be completely viable in the jungle. I don't get why Riot does this. Off the top of my head, Riot has tried to kill Taliyah jungle, Viktor top, Irelia mid, and Pyke mid. I just don't like it.

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Kalienor6 votes

Like you said, they are secondary roles. When they perform better than their designed main counterpart, where is the "secondary"?

Radiant Seraph3 votes

Irelia is cancer in Mid. She just zones you with her Q+E combo and either you don't farm or die.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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Irelia is cancer in Mid. She just zones you with her Q+E combo and either you don't farm or die.

How is that different than any mage tho.

MorganFreemanBot2 votes

I played around with jungle aatrox last season.

I really enjoyed it, and think it had a lot of potential. But the last series of nerfs he's gotten have made it... very difficult, and this next set looks primed to kill it completely.

MLDzXnRRR2 votes

Balance. Or they have to kill the other lanes. Lulu top for example was completely overpowered and unfun to play against, so it had to be nerfed. Camille is the best ganker (because of the initiation range, heavy CC supports/tanks have better ganks, if they can get in range) in the game, despite having very slow clear in the jungle. Aatrox is overpowered in competitive, his sustain is probably problematic; they want to rotate what is meta in e-sports; we have seen more than enough aatrox - even what we saw during worlds was enough, he is still pick or ban

boricCentaur12 votes

Because its fucking toxic no one likes pyke mjd since it negates some of his weakness same thing with taliyah jungle.

JarodDempsey1 votes

dude theyve been killing secondary roles since like S5 it's really dumb and frankly detracts from the quality of the game i also dk why theyre doing it. Champions who can function perfectly in multiple roles it seems as though riot goes out of their way with needless nerfs simply to prevent it.

saltran1 votes

Champions who can function perfectly in multiple roles

Yeah but there's a problem when Aatrox is better Toplaner, Midlaner and Jungle than most champs that can only go one of this roles because he becomes even better because he can flex and choose the right matchup, it's massive on pro play how some of the strongest champs right now on pro play are one that can flex to múltiple roles cuz you cant draft against them.

Good job Riot, now they are finally doing some proper balance on the game.

saltran1 votes

It's easier to balance, I'm tired of all champs that are strong being able to go 3 roles such as Aatrox with Jungle Midlane Toplane or Karthus Bot Mid Jungle, Cassiopeia similar.

The most they nerf secundary roles the better the game will go, I'm really loving aswell Jungle Camille being killed on PBE.

And things as Viktor Toplane are absolute cancer, or that's what toplaners say and I trust them in that topic.

Frog goes moo1 votes

Taliyah was originially strictly a mid laner and sometimes a top laner. They tried pushing her jg due to proplay even though she was just average and mediocre in solo queue at all ranks, and ended up making her pick/ban in high elo and proplay. Then they tried to nerf her jg presence and then finally killing off her jg potential entirely.

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