garen's spin should stack fervor

Big Lincoln·Dec 17, 2016·7 votes·3,970 views

do it riot

19 Comments

Kukan SeishinDec 17, 20163 votes

https://youtu.be/ztVMib1T4T4

DracocrashDec 17, 20161 votes

That would require garens E to apply onhit effects. remembers crit garen NONONONO

Big LincolnDec 17, 20162 votes

crits aren't an onhit effect

and his spins still crit

just make it a special interaction with fervor specifically, not hard they did it for jhin's w and ult being single target for DFT

DracocrashDec 17, 20161 votes

I know, but imagine crit ANd onhit effects.

Big LincolnDec 17, 20163 votes

item 3748

but rly I just want fervor to be an exception case, that's all

garen has no good keystones and since Riot clearly doesn't plan on removing the mistake that is keystones, it holds him back a fair bit not to have one that works well for him

sit kidDec 17, 20161 votes

Very unlikely that removing the keystones (even though it would be for the game's best), or making garen's E apply fervor will happen.

Right now, all they do is just tweak him and his numbers

Critmaster GarenDec 17, 20161 votes

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That would require garens E to apply onhit effects. remembers crit garen NONONONO

his q and spin can still crit. they didnt remove that.

DracocrashDec 17, 20161 votes

I know, but fervor and crit garen would be a night mare :^)

GULAG 4 UDec 17, 20161 votes

He's already okay atm i believe?

Commander JavikDec 17, 20161 votes

HELL NO !!

Irelia BotDec 17, 20161 votes

Does he really need more power?

TyrekGoldenspearDec 17, 20161 votes

Yup. Just like Irelia right? :P

Irelia BotDec 17, 20161 votes

I don't think Irelia needs more power though.

Big LincolnDec 17, 20161 votes

yes

would rather have this than armor shred on E, pointless buff i m o

DracocrashDec 17, 20161 votes

the pointless buff, doubled his play rate and increased his winrate in plat+ substantially.

Big LincolnDec 17, 20161 votes

good buff doesn't mean it has a point

of course it makes him stronger, 25% shred is absurd power. it didn't solve any of the issues that garen players actually wanted to be solved and it doesn't make him any better kit-wise. he still has no potential to make a play, he's still exactly like Darius except worse in every way besides his shred being team-wide.

garen has no real niche as a champion right now. every game you could conceivably play him in and do well, Darius would still be better.

TyrekGoldenspearDec 17, 20161 votes

As a bonus they should rename the tooltip in gamr as Fervor of Justice.

Critmaster GarenDec 17, 20161 votes

id be fine if they either buffed grasp, or made dft scale with total ad instead of bonus ad.

having one single keystone that synergizes 100% with his kit, instead of being forced to settle for stormraider and be able to proc like it like 50% of the time would be nice.

Big LincolnDec 17, 20161 votes

make his Q proc DFT as well