So as a support main... I'm completely fine with the support item changes.

Terozu·11/25/2019, 12:50:33 AM·7 votes·1,671 views

I like them. Literally the only valid complaint about them that I've seen is that they Relics don't provide a lot of tankiness.

Which tbh, is balanced by the fact the spell thiefs lost their sustain as well, but I can understand why supps like Leona or Naut could be miffed by it.

I'm REALLY glad Coin is gone. That was the most bs supp item imho. Though the movement speed niche was nice, the fact you got the gold for literally just existing in lane- no last hitting or hitting spells- made it a toxic item in the role. We still have a lot of time before we can make final judgements and they haven't been out that long. But overall the items feel satisfying to use. They obviously still need to be fine tuned, but they work well. Forcing champs like Sona and Janna to interact with the lane and not be overbearing due to sustain.

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Pika Fox11/25/2019, 4:08:07 AM3 votes

I like the idea, but it completely fucks over supports later in the game. I now physically need to KS as many kills as i physically can just so i can continue to get items because i only get 600g from my support item. It cost me 400 gold, and i got 1000 from it, and its dead. I cant CS, it wont let me. I cant get any gold from it, it was removed. I physically cannot afford to let my ADC get kills if i want to enjoy the game at all.

ImGoingScotty11/25/2019, 2:04:27 AM2 votes

I really like the changes. Instead of having to rush ward item you can focus on building other items.

Modnar Erom11/25/2019, 2:36:17 AM2 votes

The massive decrease in gold income is not mathematically debatable. <------ That is a period.

ZephyrDrake11/25/2019, 2:49:23 AM2 votes

The loss of any form of sustain and the loss of the entirety of the tribute passive after it gets fully upgraded is a huge issue with me. Is it that broken to still have those passives on the fully completed items? Specially when getting the fully stacked items can take forever? Why does it matter if you can get another 1k gold in another 20 mins? How about the mana/health regen? Is it too much to ask for even 50% regen to be on the items? These items feel horrible to use.

I don't care that I don't have to spend money upgrading them, the money I am saving upgrading them is spent pretty much on trying to get back what they don't give anymore and then if you somehow manage to get full build you are left with a very underwhelming and pointless item whose only goal is to provide wards. I rather get a dedicated ward slot so I don't have this borderline useless item on my inventory.

Chalze11/25/2019, 2:09:09 AM1 votes

I haven't played properly for a month or so, so if I could ask: How are enchanter support items now? I play supports that would normally only go Spellthief's Edge, how is it now?

Reaper Soraka11/25/2019, 2:33:24 AM1 votes

I don't mind the change too much? I do miss coin for matchups that I can't poke without feeding.

I take about as much CS as I did before and it doesn't seem to make a difference.