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J4 Needs Help Early Game

Sugar Momma··6 votes·509 views

His first clear is among the worst of all junglers...As a jungler who's supposed to do well early game and perform early ganks, he can't really do that.

11 Comments

Fawksea1 votes

what items do you start with? and runes/masteries

Sugar Momma1 votes

Making comment merely on observation from games I've seen him and friends who play him.

Fawksea1 votes

well tell your friends who play him to start talisman so they can heal up, he has good clears with that and good mana regen

Sugar Momma1 votes

They do, it's still bad

Slamurai Jack2 votes

J4's first clear is literally worse than champions like Kayle and Sejuani. He can barely do 3 camps without dying even with Talisman and 3 potions.

Fawksea1 votes

i might have to test this

Captain Aishi1 votes

there's this rule about jungling, where you either gank well, or clear fast... and then there's lee sin, elise, etc. :P

WadeWilson13372 votes

There is actually ALOT of junglers that fit that role now. Jarvan is just one of those slightly above average gankers with a clear that an Ahri could compete with.

Sugar Momma1 votes

I think Ahri might even beat J4; at least she has some sustain.

Sohleks1 votes

It's odd, because I know j4 was a top pick at the trail end of last season. Jugger items were newer and more OP back then and the meta compositions were different...

However my jungle run with him this season felt AWFUL. I don't quite understand whats soo different.

This back when it was thought go item 1041 or die tho. Maybe I'll give him one more shot...

WadeWilson13371 votes

Can confirm. I am a jungle main and i honestly do not think i have ever lost to a Jarvan. His ganks are okay, but his clear is so slow and so unhealthy that he can actually be invaded by alot of weak early game junglers.

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